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CERN Press Release: Higgs Search Update
- phreeza 15y agoSo the gist is: Both experiments at LHC looking for the Higgs (CMS and ATLAS) see a bump at an energy of around 125GeV, but neither have enough data to conclusively proove or disproove the presence of the Higgs boson. More data in next years run will likely bring a definitive answer.
- atakan_gurkan 15y agoJust as importantly, they ruled out the presence of Higgs Boson outside their quoted ranges, with quite high confidence. If Higgs Boson does not turn up in this energy band, we have a very interesting problem in our hands.
- kamagmar 15y agoJust to be clear: what they've ruled out is the Standard Model version of the Higgs boson. There are actually many possible kinds of Higgs bosons, the SM version being the simplest.
- nixxle 15y agoTL;DR: Not found, think to know where it is. C U next year. Thnx 4 the billions.
- freehunter 15y agoSee this is the problem with press releases of scientific research. If they had said "we think we've got it", people would be clamoring that the Higgs boson particle was found, when it wasn't. If they say (as they did) that they saw signs of it but are hesitant to make claims of its existence until they have firm proof, people make ignorant statements like the one above.
- afterburner 15y agoYour point is valid, but personally I didn't read the comment as ignorant. What part of it is not true?
- Elrac 15y agoIt's the decidedly dismissive tone some people have a problem with.
- afterburner 15y agoAny TLDR summary is dismissive in nature... I guess I filter that out as "for the jokes".
- schrototo 15y agoThe insinuation that it's all just done for the grant money.
- afterburner 15y agoNahh, I don't see that. They're just thankful that's all! :)
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- afterburner 15y agoHN... no sense of humour...
- redthrowaway 15y agoA common misperception. Humour on HN isn't verboten as such, it just needs to be carefully cloaked in some sort of substantive contribution to the discussion. It's empty responses, not funny ones, that draw the downvotes. The kind of humour that predominates on other websites, unfortunately, happens to be of the empty variety and so recent immigrants from there tend to draw flak for one-liners that don't convey any information. SNR is prized and cultivated around here. That doesn't rule out humour per se, but it does considerably shrink the set of humourous responses that are appreciated.
- Create 15y agoCERN openly discriminates people, who weren't born in western Europe. MC-EST. "The cost [...] has been evaluated, taking into account realistic labor prices in different countries. The total cost is X (with a western equivalent value of Y) [where Y>X] forrás: LHCb calorimeters : Technical Design Report ISBN: 9290831693 http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/49426 http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/49426
- Create 15y agodownvoting w/o explanation will not make your counter-argument more rational.
- chucknthem 15y agoThis has nothing to do with the discovery or existence of the Higgs boson.
- Confusion 15y agoYou are being downvoted because your accusation is entirely irrelevant to this discussion. Also, it is entirely unclear what your evidence is.
- russell 15y agoSo what has Fermilab found at 140 Gev? It was originally described as a Higgs canidate. Or is it a supersymmmetry particle? http://www.symmetrymagazine.org/breaking/2011/04/07/fermilabs-data-peak-that-causes-excitement/ http://www.symmetrymagazine.org/breaking/2011/04/07/fermilab... I saw an article (but lost it :( ) that speculated there mat be as many as 5 Higgs bosons. Edit: If you google "fermilab 144 gev", you will find several articles and a learned rant arguing for the Higgs at 144 Gev.
- mattheww 15y agoWithin the particle physics community, that bump is widely believed to be the result of a poorly understood background subtraction. None of the other experiments (D0, CMS, ATLAS) have been able to reproduce that result.
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