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Or... Why roll out to residential users when there are RVs and planes still without service? Anyway, any residential ISP advertising "unlimited" is almost cert

Or... Why roll out to residential users when there are RVs and planes still without service? Anyway, any residential ISP advertising "unlimited" is almost certainly full of shit. They shouldn't be allowed to advertise with this sort of language when there are in fact limits imposed. Leading people to believe otherwise has always been unfair.

nrmitchi 4y ago
Because the initial selling point was “providing access to those living in rural areas without great alternatives” and then they tried to get a bunch of government funding for providing residential connectivity in those areas (And then failed at providing it)?
- MichaelCollins 4y ago
  > (And then failed at providing it)? Lol, a datacap of 1TB a month is hardly a failure for the very rural users who don't have the choice of signing up with the likes of Comcast (who pull this same sort of "unlimited*" bullshit too.) I never met a residential ISP that I felt did business honestly, but to call Starlink a failure because of a 1TB limit is some serious mental gymnastics. Same old scummy ISP practices? Certainly. A failure? Give me a break.
  - nrmitchi 4y ago
    That's not what I'm referring to. Starlink was attempting to get almost $1B worth of grants from the Rural Digital Opportunity Fund, which exists to "bring high speed fixed broadband service to rural homes and small businesses that lack it". They quite literally failed to prove that they could provide the service they claimed. > The FCC has rejected the SpaceX unit's bid to receive $885.5 million in aid through the Rural Digital Opportunity Fund. The broadband provider "failed to demonstrate" that it could deliver the claimed service, according to a statement. https://www.engadget.com/fcc-rejects-spacex-starlink-rural-broad-band-funds-194352343.html https://www.engadget.com/fcc-rejects-spacex-starlink-rural-b...
BenjiWiebe 4y ago
I appreciate you said "almost certainly". My cousin runs a WISP and when I asked him about someone maxing their bandwidth out 100% of the time, he said they'd make it work, not limit the customer.
- MichaelCollins 4y ago
  An honest WISP is actually the exact sort of scenario I had in mind when I hedged that claim. In my experience, small businesses are sometimes honest but the big ones almost never are.

nrmitchi 4y ago

Because the initial selling point was “providing access to those living in rural areas without great alternatives” and then they tried to get a bunch of government funding for providing residential connectivity in those areas (And then failed at providing it)?

MichaelCollins 4y ago
> (And then failed at providing it)? Lol, a datacap of 1TB a month is hardly a failure for the very rural users who don't have the choice of signing up with the likes of Comcast (who pull this same sort of "unlimited*" bullshit too.) I never met a residential ISP that I felt did business honestly, but to call Starlink a failure because of a 1TB limit is some serious mental gymnastics. Same old scummy ISP practices? Certainly. A failure? Give me a break.
- nrmitchi 4y ago
  That's not what I'm referring to. Starlink was attempting to get almost $1B worth of grants from the Rural Digital Opportunity Fund, which exists to "bring high speed fixed broadband service to rural homes and small businesses that lack it". They quite literally failed to prove that they could provide the service they claimed. > The FCC has rejected the SpaceX unit's bid to receive $885.5 million in aid through the Rural Digital Opportunity Fund. The broadband provider "failed to demonstrate" that it could deliver the claimed service, according to a statement. https://www.engadget.com/fcc-rejects-spacex-starlink-rural-broad-band-funds-194352343.html https://www.engadget.com/fcc-rejects-spacex-starlink-rural-b...

BenjiWiebe 4y ago

I appreciate you said "almost certainly". My cousin runs a WISP and when I asked him about someone maxing their bandwidth out 100% of the time, he said they'd make it work, not limit the customer.

MichaelCollins 4y ago
An honest WISP is actually the exact sort of scenario I had in mind when I hedged that claim. In my experience, small businesses are sometimes honest but the big ones almost never are.