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It's pretty wild how the @whitehouse twitter account is used. If you looked at only the ones about the price of gas you'd get the impression its been a great ri

It's pretty wild how the @whitehouse twitter account is used. If you looked at only the ones about the price of gas you'd get the impression its been a great ride. May 2021 (with forecast!) https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1398685824934363138 https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1398685824934363138 Dec 2021 https://twitter.com/whitehouse/status/1470870982588088325 https://twitter.com/whitehouse/status/1470870982588088325 August 2022 https://twitter.com/whitehouse/status/1554497308024311809 https://twitter.com/whitehouse/status/1554497308024311809

z9znz 4y ago
Are you implying that the whitehouse twitter only got stupid starting in 2021? Granted, that account was not so loud in 2016-2020 as perhaps now (maybe... I haven't counted tweets) because the president of that time was tweeting 10+ times per day (some really unmatched crazy shit too).
- pessimizer 4y ago
  Is the point of bringing up Trump to say that he is a bad person who was doing the same thing, therefore that thing is good? Or are we just making lists of people who have lied?
  - z9znz 4y ago
    I'm objecting to the parent post starting with 2021 as the year to note that the whitehouse account was posting stupid things. That implies that it was not being stupid prior to 2021, when in contrast the most historically asinine tweets in existence (at least from people in places of high authority) occurred in the 2015-2020 range. Tweets in general are not good. Most are pointless, many are stupid, some are evil, and sadly only a few are worth existing. So I'm not suggesting that current White House tweets are good. They are just not remarkable in comparison to the tweets from the previous period.
    - robertlagrant 4y ago
      ...from another account.
      - z9znz 4y ago
        You're welcome to scroll thru https://twitter.com/whitehouse45 https://twitter.com/whitehouse45 if you can stand it. Granted most of it is about every holiday, the decorations for that holiday, the holiday decoration preparations, and the occasional other redecorating courtesy of the First Decorator. But you definitely can find BS things similar to the one from the social security topic. "President @realDonaldTrump has done more to lower medicine prices than any President in history!" (unsurprisingly it's hyperbolic and almost completely lacking any truth or evidence; the evidence points to an opposite result) I'm not going to dig thru the pile to prove you wrong. But you're wrong. Edit: Ok, I just have to add this gem. "This Administration is "tackling longstanding problems that no other Administration had the guts to do," @SeemaCMS says." That period was just chock full of useless tweets or outright false tweets.
        Izkata 4y ago
        > "President @realDonaldTrump has done more to lower medicine prices than any President in history!" (unsurprisingly it's hyperbolic and almost completely lacking any truth or evidence; the evidence points to an opposite result) The one thing I'm aware of on this topic is the cost of insulin, which he did lower in 2020: https://nypost.com/2020/05/26/trump-cuts-cost-of-insulin-for-medicare-enrollees-to-35-a-month/ https://nypost.com/2020/05/26/trump-cuts-cost-of-insulin-for...
        lotsofpulp 4y ago
        That is increasing government payments to insulin sellers on for old people using insulin covered by Medicare. When most people think of “lowering the price of insulin”, they would not think “increasing subsidies to a select group of the country, that happens to vote heavily, and heavily for the administration’s party”. Also, the insulin price cap was for older, cheaper forms of insulin. The modern ones are still more expensive. Hence, anytime a politician touts doing something about insulin prices without specifying “all insulin”, I assume they are BSing.
  - the_third_wave 4y ago
    It is the new Chewbacca defence [1], whenever the discussion deviates from the desired narrative it is enough to bring on a variation on 'but Trump did XXX' or 'at least it was not as bad as Trump' or 'just like Trump' to derail it. Now that the precedent has been set this is likely to continue with one side using the mentioned but Trump arguments which are countered with at least he was not as bad as Biden. Rinse, repeat, ad infinitum et delirium. [1] https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Chewbacca_Defense https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Chewbacca_Defense
  - EricDeb 4y ago
    I believe the point is that, yes what biden did here is bad, but what trump did regularly was significantly worse (especially calling into question the 2020 election)

z9znz 4y ago

Are you implying that the whitehouse twitter only got stupid starting in 2021? Granted, that account was not so loud in 2016-2020 as perhaps now (maybe... I haven't counted tweets) because the president of that time was tweeting 10+ times per day (some really unmatched crazy shit too).

pessimizer 4y ago
Is the point of bringing up Trump to say that he is a bad person who was doing the same thing, therefore that thing is good? Or are we just making lists of people who have lied?
- z9znz 4y ago
  I'm objecting to the parent post starting with 2021 as the year to note that the whitehouse account was posting stupid things. That implies that it was not being stupid prior to 2021, when in contrast the most historically asinine tweets in existence (at least from people in places of high authority) occurred in the 2015-2020 range. Tweets in general are not good. Most are pointless, many are stupid, some are evil, and sadly only a few are worth existing. So I'm not suggesting that current White House tweets are good. They are just not remarkable in comparison to the tweets from the previous period.
  - robertlagrant 4y ago
    ...from another account.
    - z9znz 4y ago
      You're welcome to scroll thru https://twitter.com/whitehouse45 https://twitter.com/whitehouse45 if you can stand it. Granted most of it is about every holiday, the decorations for that holiday, the holiday decoration preparations, and the occasional other redecorating courtesy of the First Decorator. But you definitely can find BS things similar to the one from the social security topic. "President @realDonaldTrump has done more to lower medicine prices than any President in history!" (unsurprisingly it's hyperbolic and almost completely lacking any truth or evidence; the evidence points to an opposite result) I'm not going to dig thru the pile to prove you wrong. But you're wrong. Edit: Ok, I just have to add this gem. "This Administration is "tackling longstanding problems that no other Administration had the guts to do," @SeemaCMS says." That period was just chock full of useless tweets or outright false tweets.
      - Izkata 4y ago
        > "President @realDonaldTrump has done more to lower medicine prices than any President in history!" (unsurprisingly it's hyperbolic and almost completely lacking any truth or evidence; the evidence points to an opposite result) The one thing I'm aware of on this topic is the cost of insulin, which he did lower in 2020: https://nypost.com/2020/05/26/trump-cuts-cost-of-insulin-for-medicare-enrollees-to-35-a-month/ https://nypost.com/2020/05/26/trump-cuts-cost-of-insulin-for...
        lotsofpulp 4y ago
        That is increasing government payments to insulin sellers on for old people using insulin covered by Medicare. When most people think of “lowering the price of insulin”, they would not think “increasing subsidies to a select group of the country, that happens to vote heavily, and heavily for the administration’s party”. Also, the insulin price cap was for older, cheaper forms of insulin. The modern ones are still more expensive. Hence, anytime a politician touts doing something about insulin prices without specifying “all insulin”, I assume they are BSing.
- the_third_wave 4y ago
  It is the new Chewbacca defence [1], whenever the discussion deviates from the desired narrative it is enough to bring on a variation on 'but Trump did XXX' or 'at least it was not as bad as Trump' or 'just like Trump' to derail it. Now that the precedent has been set this is likely to continue with one side using the mentioned but Trump arguments which are countered with at least he was not as bad as Biden. Rinse, repeat, ad infinitum et delirium. [1] https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Chewbacca_Defense https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Chewbacca_Defense
- EricDeb 4y ago
  I believe the point is that, yes what biden did here is bad, but what trump did regularly was significantly worse (especially calling into question the 2020 election)