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Managing other people can be difficult, especially when you need to make decisions that are in the best interest of the organization (and its owners), but what

Managing other people can be difficult, especially when you need to make decisions that are in the best interest of the organization (and its owners), but what may not necessarily be a popular choice among the employees you are responsible for. Often times "clueless leaders" actually do have a clue, it's just that their decisions have to consider other factors, not just what is best for you. It can really suck to be the person in that position.

BlargMcLarg 4y ago
This gets said so often yet it doesn't necessarily align. Personal responsibility is pushed aggressively, too. More often, ICs don't get all the information. It's not about having a clue as much as information asymmetry. All those meetings should imply as much, anyway.
- candiddevmike 4y ago
  See any managers response during stand up: "in meetings all day, oh btw Blarg I need to talk to you about a release process". That's it? That's all you want to share?
  - drevil-v2 4y ago
    I have been in that position delivering that update. The kind of work you have to do as VP/Director does not translate well into the task oriented stand up updates that developers give. Often times I would be working across multiple projects/initiatives - some I am responsible stakeholder, some I am an informed stakeholder, some are with external teams or companies - and most of these projects are over long periods of time - as in it is not 2 point or 4 point story item that can be updated in 60 seconds over stand up.
Gibbon1 4y ago
I worked one place where they brought in a new director who wasn't functionally competent. I have theories of why which are all probably partly true. Like he saw actually engaging and managing his division as a distraction from social engineering a lateral move up the ladder. Eventually everyone under him in mass went to his boss and HR and told them flat out he needed to go. And the company did nothing for 18 months. And then just pruned him and the whole division of 25 experienced RF chip designers.
- mbaytas 4y ago
  I have a theory that when the C-suite decides to slay an entire division they assign an incompetent boss. Give them a few months to mess it up. Then go for the kill. The incompetent new boss magically absorbs all the blame.
  - Gibbon1 4y ago
    > whole division of 25 experienced RF chip designers.

BlargMcLarg 4y ago

This gets said so often yet it doesn't necessarily align. Personal responsibility is pushed aggressively, too. More often, ICs don't get all the information. It's not about having a clue as much as information asymmetry. All those meetings should imply as much, anyway.

candiddevmike 4y ago
See any managers response during stand up: "in meetings all day, oh btw Blarg I need to talk to you about a release process". That's it? That's all you want to share?
- drevil-v2 4y ago
  I have been in that position delivering that update. The kind of work you have to do as VP/Director does not translate well into the task oriented stand up updates that developers give. Often times I would be working across multiple projects/initiatives - some I am responsible stakeholder, some I am an informed stakeholder, some are with external teams or companies - and most of these projects are over long periods of time - as in it is not 2 point or 4 point story item that can be updated in 60 seconds over stand up.

Gibbon1 4y ago

I worked one place where they brought in a new director who wasn't functionally competent. I have theories of why which are all probably partly true. Like he saw actually engaging and managing his division as a distraction from social engineering a lateral move up the ladder. Eventually everyone under him in mass went to his boss and HR and told them flat out he needed to go. And the company did nothing for 18 months. And then just pruned him and the whole division of 25 experienced RF chip designers.

mbaytas 4y ago
I have a theory that when the C-suite decides to slay an entire division they assign an incompetent boss. Give them a few months to mess it up. Then go for the kill. The incompetent new boss magically absorbs all the blame.
- Gibbon1 4y ago
  > whole division of 25 experienced RF chip designers.