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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41488081 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41488081 The US has far more guns and far more gun violence than any

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41488081 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41488081 The US has far more guns and far more gun violence than anywhere else in the developed world, by huge margins. Personal ownership of guns does not make individuals safer. Indeed, it's quite the opposite when you look at the data. Your anecdote is not data.

seanw444 4y ago
I will take my anecdote over this data. I am undoubtedly much safer surrounded by moral gun carriers, than when I am around only unarmed people. My state doesn't even require permits to do so. Can't recall the last mass shooting that happened in this state. My boss is chill with me carrying at work. A couple coworkers know that I carry at work. The police are chill when I'm pulled over, and I announce that I am carrying. There's a culture issue. Guns aren't leaving. Banning them leaves us more vulnerable. Citizens commonly carried firearms around the world until the rise of fascism. Now the norm is disarming the populous. I'm more scared of my government knowing that the citizenry they govern have no means of retaliation, than I am of the very very miniscule chance that I'll have to stop a mass shooter.
- sjsdaiuasgdia 4y ago
  Ok keep ignoring data and reality and saying "how does this happen?" every time another mass shooting happens.
  - seanw444 4y ago
    We agree there's a problem. We disagree on what the problem is, and how to fix it. You're not gonna fix anything.
    - sjsdaiuasgdia 4y ago
      Quite a few other countries have solved the gun violence problem via gun control. The US could too. It's pretty logical that less guns = less gun violence. You will never be allowed to have weaponry that can seriously challenge the US military in any meaningful way, that govt resistance part is a pipe dream.
      - seanw444 4y ago
        That was the whole point of the 2A. The government being too powerful doesn't mean "well it's over, let's just make them more powerful." Y'all take an existing problem and jump in the totally wrong direction with solutions.

seanw444 4y ago

I will take my anecdote over this data. I am undoubtedly much safer surrounded by moral gun carriers, than when I am around only unarmed people. My state doesn't even require permits to do so. Can't recall the last mass shooting that happened in this state. My boss is chill with me carrying at work. A couple coworkers know that I carry at work. The police are chill when I'm pulled over, and I announce that I am carrying. There's a culture issue. Guns aren't leaving. Banning them leaves us more vulnerable. Citizens commonly carried firearms around the world until the rise of fascism. Now the norm is disarming the populous. I'm more scared of my government knowing that the citizenry they govern have no means of retaliation, than I am of the very very miniscule chance that I'll have to stop a mass shooter.

sjsdaiuasgdia 4y ago
Ok keep ignoring data and reality and saying "how does this happen?" every time another mass shooting happens.
- seanw444 4y ago
  We agree there's a problem. We disagree on what the problem is, and how to fix it. You're not gonna fix anything.
  - sjsdaiuasgdia 4y ago
    Quite a few other countries have solved the gun violence problem via gun control. The US could too. It's pretty logical that less guns = less gun violence. You will never be allowed to have weaponry that can seriously challenge the US military in any meaningful way, that govt resistance part is a pipe dream.
    - seanw444 4y ago
      That was the whole point of the 2A. The government being too powerful doesn't mean "well it's over, let's just make them more powerful." Y'all take an existing problem and jump in the totally wrong direction with solutions.