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+1 for RSS, I leaned on RSS as my protocol-of-choice for Haven[1], and even added a built-in RSS feed-reader. It provides a single chronologically-ordered stre

by mawise 4y ago

+1 for RSS, I leaned on RSS as my protocol-of-choice for Haven[1], and even added a built-in RSS feed-reader. It provides a single chronologically-ordered stream of content from all your feeds which I've found makes it much more pleasant to read through. [1]: https://havenweb.org https://havenweb.org

dont__panic 4y ago
Thank you so much for sharing! I have considered this exact same idea to break my friends and family free from the chains of Facebook and Instagram, but you've packaged this up so nicely, I should really give this a shot. Is there a way to update my own blog to play nicely with Haven? I like my own styling and hosting setup, and I already have my own RSS reader, so ideally I would like to continue using those, while also making them available to friends and family on Haven.
- mawise 4y ago
  The only thing special about Haven is that access is restricted for the content you publish. Anything that publishes and consumes RSS (so long as it supports HTTP Basic Auth) will play nicely with Haven. I have to add that caveat because support isn't universal. NetNewsWire supports it, Thunderbird supports it, and Inoreader supports it on their paid tier, but Feedly doesn't. (for some examples) Happy to chat directly, drop me a note on the Haven contact page! https://havenweb.org/contact.html https://havenweb.org/contact.html
vanilla_nut 4y ago
Brilliant! If you ever need help with this, I would love to pitch in. It reminds me of the olden days of social media. For users who don't know how to self host, and can't stomach the (very reasonable for ad-free social media) $5/mo... have you considered a cloud-hosted option with a sidebar of KTLO ads? Or maybe a "family plan" cloud instance where multiple friends could share a single cloud instance (sharded per person) to save money on the hosted option?
- mawise 4y ago
  Thank you for the offer! I'll reach out directly and we can chat more.
rambambram 4y ago
Hi Matt, we've recently emailed about Haven and HeyHomepage because we both are RSS-based, so to speak. Your software is oriented towards private (group) communication and makes a strong case as an alternative for Facebook. I've a lot of respect for your product! With HeyHomepage I'm more publicly oriented, more Twitter-like if you will. On top of a publicly accessible website. The beauty of RSS is it's interoperability. So I was wondering, can your built-in newsreader also read my RSS feed, for example? Or only other Haven feeds? And the other way around, can I follow private feeds from Haven users with my built-in newsreader? Or any other separate newsreader software, for that matter? As long as Haven users would share that link with me, of course.
- mawise 4y ago
  Yup! RSS is RSS! If you want to follow a Haven feed, you just need to make sure your newsreader can handle HTTP Basic Auth credentials. A Haven feed URL embeds the credentials right in the URL to make it easier. And Haven's feed reader can read every RSS and Atom feed I've been able to find. The feed reading and publishing are both part of the live demo, so you can do some testing over there! https://havenweb.org/demo.html https://havenweb.org/demo.html If you run into any incompatibilities, let me know and I'll get them fixed!
  - rambambram 4y ago
    I can confirm HeyHomepage's newsreader can read and display the Haven demo feed that I just made. The other way around works as well. That's the beauty of the Web and RSS.

by mawise 4y ago

dont__panic 4y ago

Thank you so much for sharing! I have considered this exact same idea to break my friends and family free from the chains of Facebook and Instagram, but you've packaged this up so nicely, I should really give this a shot. Is there a way to update my own blog to play nicely with Haven? I like my own styling and hosting setup, and I already have my own RSS reader, so ideally I would like to continue using those, while also making them available to friends and family on Haven.

mawise 4y ago
The only thing special about Haven is that access is restricted for the content you publish. Anything that publishes and consumes RSS (so long as it supports HTTP Basic Auth) will play nicely with Haven. I have to add that caveat because support isn't universal. NetNewsWire supports it, Thunderbird supports it, and Inoreader supports it on their paid tier, but Feedly doesn't. (for some examples) Happy to chat directly, drop me a note on the Haven contact page! https://havenweb.org/contact.html https://havenweb.org/contact.html

vanilla_nut 4y ago

Brilliant! If you ever need help with this, I would love to pitch in. It reminds me of the olden days of social media. For users who don't know how to self host, and can't stomach the (very reasonable for ad-free social media) $5/mo... have you considered a cloud-hosted option with a sidebar of KTLO ads? Or maybe a "family plan" cloud instance where multiple friends could share a single cloud instance (sharded per person) to save money on the hosted option?

mawise 4y ago
Thank you for the offer! I'll reach out directly and we can chat more.

rambambram 4y ago

Hi Matt, we've recently emailed about Haven and HeyHomepage because we both are RSS-based, so to speak. Your software is oriented towards private (group) communication and makes a strong case as an alternative for Facebook. I've a lot of respect for your product! With HeyHomepage I'm more publicly oriented, more Twitter-like if you will. On top of a publicly accessible website. The beauty of RSS is it's interoperability. So I was wondering, can your built-in newsreader also read my RSS feed, for example? Or only other Haven feeds? And the other way around, can I follow private feeds from Haven users with my built-in newsreader? Or any other separate newsreader software, for that matter? As long as Haven users would share that link with me, of course.

mawise 4y ago
Yup! RSS is RSS! If you want to follow a Haven feed, you just need to make sure your newsreader can handle HTTP Basic Auth credentials. A Haven feed URL embeds the credentials right in the URL to make it easier. And Haven's feed reader can read every RSS and Atom feed I've been able to find. The feed reading and publishing are both part of the live demo, so you can do some testing over there! https://havenweb.org/demo.html https://havenweb.org/demo.html If you run into any incompatibilities, let me know and I'll get them fixed!
- rambambram 4y ago
  I can confirm HeyHomepage's newsreader can read and display the Haven demo feed that I just made. The other way around works as well. That's the beauty of the Web and RSS.