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> "Musk has a history of not complying with legal obligations unless forced to..." In that case, Musk sounds very much like every government, business, politic

> "Musk has a history of not complying with legal obligations unless forced to..." In that case, Musk sounds very much like every government, business, politician, friend, family member and neighbor I've ever known. In other words, that's how the world generally works.

WoahNoun 4y ago
Musk was openly antagonistic to an agreement he signed that waved all due diligence. In my business experience, most entities that sign a contract try to honor that contract. Musk does not. He tries to use his money and power to find every loophole in every business deal. It's shady, it's deceptive, and it's not conducive to long-term success.
- mywittyname 4y ago
  He definitely has a vibe of seeming to think he's above the law, IMHO. TBF, he is in most cases, just not that particular one.
- emkoemko 4y ago
  remember how he defrauded the US government to get subsidies for Tesla? i don't even understand after finding this out how he does not get in trouble?
jonathankoren 4y ago
> In that case, Musk sounds very much like every government, business, politician, friend, family member and neighbor I've ever known. If your friends, family, and colleagues are routinely getting into legal trouble, you need some better friends, family, and colleagues. Of course, maybe you're part of The Family(tm), in which case... say no more.
afavour 4y ago
Your friends, family members and neighbors typically aren’t going to have the power to fuck over thousands of former employees though. Great power comes great responsibility and all that.
- sebastos 4y ago
  Governments, businesses and politicians do though..
marcinzm 4y ago
>In other words, that's how the world generally works. And suing people for it is also how the world works.
kenjackson 4y ago
Sounds like a lovely family.
MichaelCollins 4y ago
"Everybody else commits these crimes, or would if they could" is a common coping belief expressed by criminals. But it isn't true.
- mdaEyebot 4y ago
  It's projection. I wish I had learned earlier that when somebody makes an accusatory statement, it is wise to consider that they may be inadvertently projecting their self and their intentions onto the people around them. It is very human to believe that most people think and feel in more or less the same way. So when we hear generalized statements about what people are like, or how they would likely react to a course of action, the sentiment will often be biased by how the speaker thinks, or would react.
watwut 4y ago
I have to say, I have much better family and friends.
dragontamer 4y ago
We only have to look at the Stripe layoffs (also happening this past week) to see that you're wrong.
throwawaysleep 4y ago
And they get sued/fined/jailed for doing it if caught. Like he is currently being.
barneygale 4y ago
Such cynical views of mankind should not be tolerated in the tech industry.
_jal 4y ago
> In that case, Musk sounds very much like every government, business, politician... If you mean that in the sense that everyone, no matter how powerful, needs to be subject to oversight, I agree with you. If instead you mean that in the schoolyard, "But Johnny was cussing too!" sense, well, if that's supposed to be a defense, it isn't. All I can suggest is be a smarter criminal.
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WoahNoun 4y ago

Musk was openly antagonistic to an agreement he signed that waved all due diligence. In my business experience, most entities that sign a contract try to honor that contract. Musk does not. He tries to use his money and power to find every loophole in every business deal. It's shady, it's deceptive, and it's not conducive to long-term success.

mywittyname 4y ago
He definitely has a vibe of seeming to think he's above the law, IMHO. TBF, he is in most cases, just not that particular one.
emkoemko 4y ago
remember how he defrauded the US government to get subsidies for Tesla? i don't even understand after finding this out how he does not get in trouble?

jonathankoren 4y ago

> In that case, Musk sounds very much like every government, business, politician, friend, family member and neighbor I've ever known. If your friends, family, and colleagues are routinely getting into legal trouble, you need some better friends, family, and colleagues. Of course, maybe you're part of The Family(tm), in which case... say no more.

afavour 4y ago

Your friends, family members and neighbors typically aren’t going to have the power to fuck over thousands of former employees though. Great power comes great responsibility and all that.

sebastos 4y ago
Governments, businesses and politicians do though..

marcinzm 4y ago

>In other words, that's how the world generally works. And suing people for it is also how the world works.

kenjackson 4y ago

Sounds like a lovely family.

MichaelCollins 4y ago

"Everybody else commits these crimes, or would if they could" is a common coping belief expressed by criminals. But it isn't true.

mdaEyebot 4y ago
It's projection. I wish I had learned earlier that when somebody makes an accusatory statement, it is wise to consider that they may be inadvertently projecting their self and their intentions onto the people around them. It is very human to believe that most people think and feel in more or less the same way. So when we hear generalized statements about what people are like, or how they would likely react to a course of action, the sentiment will often be biased by how the speaker thinks, or would react.

watwut 4y ago

I have to say, I have much better family and friends.

dragontamer 4y ago

We only have to look at the Stripe layoffs (also happening this past week) to see that you're wrong.

throwawaysleep 4y ago

And they get sued/fined/jailed for doing it if caught. Like he is currently being.

barneygale 4y ago

Such cynical views of mankind should not be tolerated in the tech industry.

_jal 4y ago

> In that case, Musk sounds very much like every government, business, politician... If you mean that in the sense that everyone, no matter how powerful, needs to be subject to oversight, I agree with you. If instead you mean that in the schoolyard, "But Johnny was cussing too!" sense, well, if that's supposed to be a defense, it isn't. All I can suggest is be a smarter criminal.

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