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I think a more appropriate biological analogy is HP evolved into Agilent and defecated Compaq and a crap CEO into a new business and this article is standing ar

by gw98 4y ago

I think a more appropriate biological analogy is HP evolved into Agilent and defecated Compaq and a crap CEO into a new business and this article is standing around the pile clapping its hands. Source: ex HP/Agilent.

uni_rule 4y ago
So as far as I understand it's basically old guard HP (calculators, pa-risc, multimeters, etc.) who formed Aglinet in 1999. Following this, "Consumer PC Clone Manufacturer" HP under very questionable leadership bought Compaq who themselves contained the mummified corpse of DEC somewhere in their folds. That company lumbered along for a bit and then later themselves split into modern HP who still sells PCs of varying quality and HPE who primarily sells servers and associated backend services, possibly leaning more toward the ladder than former nowadays. This shit feels like napping out the royal family, no wonder it's compared to a petri dish.
- gw98 4y ago
  The calculator dudes stayed with HP for some reason and were phased out recently, probably due to old age and retirement, in favour of crap produced by the only calculator manufacturer on the planet: Kinpo. I think the only old school folk left are working in the bowels of Keysight and any semiconductor companies Agilent spawned off.
  - ilyt 4y ago
    Swiss Micros make some fancy stuff if you're for the old RPN thingy. My DM42 even works with original HP printer. Fun fact: the replacement printing head was available for buy as late as 2020 (Seiko MTP201-G166-E ), I bought used HP 82240B printer which had problems with the printing head and just... managed to buy a new one. From what I remember the head itself was widely used in other gear and that's why production ran so long
    - gw98 4y ago
      I looked at the DM42 but I can't really justify the cost. I've got an original 15C and a 41C I still use that are going strong. I had a 48GX for a bit as well but someone stole it.
  - DaiPlusPlus 4y ago
    > in favour of crap produced by the only calculator manufacturer on the planet What about TI?
    - gw98 4y ago
      TI use Kinpo as well. TI, Casio, HP, Sharp are all the same calculators now with different enclosures and minor software differences.
      - DaiPlusPlus 4y ago
        ...even TI Nspire?
        gw98 4y ago
        No they are made by Nam Tai in China with the TI89. The other TI8x series are made by Kinpo.
ilyt 4y ago
It's named Keysight now lmao. It split again into "the stuff to do electronics with" (Keysight) and "everything else" (Agilent)
- gw98 4y ago
  Yes aware of that. I sit with a pile of Keysight stuff in front of me all day.
gburdell3 4y ago
Yep, as a current Keysight employee, it certainly feels like more of the original HP philosophy and values have stayed with us, while HP themselves have become unrecognizable.

by gw98 4y ago

uni_rule 4y ago

So as far as I understand it's basically old guard HP (calculators, pa-risc, multimeters, etc.) who formed Aglinet in 1999. Following this, "Consumer PC Clone Manufacturer" HP under very questionable leadership bought Compaq who themselves contained the mummified corpse of DEC somewhere in their folds. That company lumbered along for a bit and then later themselves split into modern HP who still sells PCs of varying quality and HPE who primarily sells servers and associated backend services, possibly leaning more toward the ladder than former nowadays. This shit feels like napping out the royal family, no wonder it's compared to a petri dish.

gw98 4y ago
The calculator dudes stayed with HP for some reason and were phased out recently, probably due to old age and retirement, in favour of crap produced by the only calculator manufacturer on the planet: Kinpo. I think the only old school folk left are working in the bowels of Keysight and any semiconductor companies Agilent spawned off.
- ilyt 4y ago
  Swiss Micros make some fancy stuff if you're for the old RPN thingy. My DM42 even works with original HP printer. Fun fact: the replacement printing head was available for buy as late as 2020 (Seiko MTP201-G166-E ), I bought used HP 82240B printer which had problems with the printing head and just... managed to buy a new one. From what I remember the head itself was widely used in other gear and that's why production ran so long
  - gw98 4y ago
    I looked at the DM42 but I can't really justify the cost. I've got an original 15C and a 41C I still use that are going strong. I had a 48GX for a bit as well but someone stole it.
- DaiPlusPlus 4y ago
  > in favour of crap produced by the only calculator manufacturer on the planet What about TI?
  - gw98 4y ago
    TI use Kinpo as well. TI, Casio, HP, Sharp are all the same calculators now with different enclosures and minor software differences.
    - DaiPlusPlus 4y ago
      ...even TI Nspire?
      - gw98 4y ago
        No they are made by Nam Tai in China with the TI89. The other TI8x series are made by Kinpo.

ilyt 4y ago

It's named Keysight now lmao. It split again into "the stuff to do electronics with" (Keysight) and "everything else" (Agilent)

gw98 4y ago
Yes aware of that. I sit with a pile of Keysight stuff in front of me all day.

gburdell3 4y ago

Yep, as a current Keysight employee, it certainly feels like more of the original HP philosophy and values have stayed with us, while HP themselves have become unrecognizable.