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Classic free market fallacy. It's only a free market if there are other options available. Those in power control the options available and low regulation free

by altacc 4y ago

Classic free market fallacy. It's only a free market if there are other options available. Those in power control the options available and low regulation free markets enable them align at the lowest common denominator.

FormerBandmate 4y ago
Highly paid Twitter SWEs have a lot of other options, although the tightening job market is making it harder. Twitter’s competitors are also recruiting directly from it
incone123 4y ago
At present there are other options available for Twitter workers. You make a reasonable point though; Its easy to imagine skilled engineers are doing well but equally we could say that its just the lowest common denominator terms and conditions for that kind of job are better than those for most other jobs.
infamouscow 4y ago
Twitter employees are compensated better than 99% of the US population and have more employment options available to them than virtually anyone on the planet. Give me a fucking break.
q1w2 4y ago
The job market for engineers is still incredibly competitive.
mc32 4y ago
Are you saying all other companies are just Musk-company clones and thus treat their employees as Musk does? I get the feeling people think Musk's management style is an outlier and that's why they are complaining --but you seem to be sayin, "they're all like that and we have no options".
s1artibartfast 4y ago
There are lots of help wanted out now and incredibly how unemployment. Options abound. Twitter employees wont starve to death if they leave. They might take a pay and lifestyle cut. do you consider that not an option?
Closi 4y ago
> Classic free market fallacy. It's only a free market if there are other options available. Those in power control the options available and low regulation free markets enable them align at the lowest common denominator. People don't pay good developers lots of money because they want to pay lots of money, they pay because good developers are in short supply.
- nebula8804 4y ago
  Hmm this poses an interesting theory. We know that part of the motivation of Obama's "Learn to Code" initiative and the coding bootcamps was to increase the supply of developers. Now that there is supposedly a recession coming it might be the case that in the end it will end up tilting the scales back in the developers court. The reason being that not 100% of the bootcampers are in it fore the love of the job but only for the money. We will see people dropping out of the market and once it recovers we might be back in a situation where there were too few devs.

by altacc 4y ago

FormerBandmate 4y ago

Highly paid Twitter SWEs have a lot of other options, although the tightening job market is making it harder. Twitter’s competitors are also recruiting directly from it

incone123 4y ago

At present there are other options available for Twitter workers. You make a reasonable point though; Its easy to imagine skilled engineers are doing well but equally we could say that its just the lowest common denominator terms and conditions for that kind of job are better than those for most other jobs.

infamouscow 4y ago

Twitter employees are compensated better than 99% of the US population and have more employment options available to them than virtually anyone on the planet. Give me a fucking break.

q1w2 4y ago

The job market for engineers is still incredibly competitive.

mc32 4y ago

Are you saying all other companies are just Musk-company clones and thus treat their employees as Musk does? I get the feeling people think Musk's management style is an outlier and that's why they are complaining --but you seem to be sayin, "they're all like that and we have no options".

s1artibartfast 4y ago

There are lots of help wanted out now and incredibly how unemployment. Options abound. Twitter employees wont starve to death if they leave. They might take a pay and lifestyle cut. do you consider that not an option?

Closi 4y ago

> Classic free market fallacy. It's only a free market if there are other options available. Those in power control the options available and low regulation free markets enable them align at the lowest common denominator. People don't pay good developers lots of money because they want to pay lots of money, they pay because good developers are in short supply.

nebula8804 4y ago
Hmm this poses an interesting theory. We know that part of the motivation of Obama's "Learn to Code" initiative and the coding bootcamps was to increase the supply of developers. Now that there is supposedly a recession coming it might be the case that in the end it will end up tilting the scales back in the developers court. The reason being that not 100% of the bootcampers are in it fore the love of the job but only for the money. We will see people dropping out of the market and once it recovers we might be back in a situation where there were too few devs.