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They are pausing ad spend on Twitter because they don’t want to be involved in politics.

afavour 4y ago
It genuinely surprises me how many Musk defenders don’t get this. I understand the principle his no-moderation policies come from but the reality is that Twitter is going to become (even more of) a political cesspit. No brand is going to want to be associated with it.
- tomp 4y ago
  - afavour 4y ago
    See, statements like this are just unhelpful. It isn’t a “left” vs “right” issue. The issue is an influx of racism, anti-semitism, violent threats and much much more. Saying it’s OK because the “far left” said whatever they wanted (what are they even saying that’s so toxic?) is asinine.
  - alkonaut 4y ago
    You probably want to consider the political normal to be the landscape that corporations is comfortable with. If companies become defensive then it might be politically extreme. If they are not, then it probably isn't. I think this idea that "every large company on earth seems to be 'far left'" is probably a sign that the vantage point might be shifted...
    - tomp 4y ago
      Maybe, but I'm speaking objectively. Jordan Peterson was cancelled because he claimed that Ellen/Eliot Page is a woman. This is just science/biology, which the far left deny and want to cancel. Meanwhile, you have UN Women (an official UN account) posting clearly sexist tweets like "Of all journalists killed in 2021, 11% were women." "𝐒𝐓𝐎𝐏 𝐓𝐀𝐑𝐆𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍𝐆 𝐖𝐎𝐌𝐄𝐍 𝐉𝐎𝐔𝐑𝐍𝐀𝐋𝐈𝐒𝐓𝐒". https://twitter.com/UN_Women/status/1587777181081559041 https://twitter.com/UN_Women/status/1587777181081559041
      - alkonaut 4y ago
        I think if you think that was strange or hypocritical you need to take a deep think.
  - DannyBee 4y ago
    Actual studies suggest otherwise. https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2021/rml-politicalcontent https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2021/rml-polit... It's true that twitter's user base itself leans a bit left, but it's a few percent - Not like 80/20, like 54/46 or something. So calling it a "far left cesspit" is not backed up by actual data.
- NickC25 4y ago
  It's going to become 4chan-lite. There's just too much risk in investing into a platform that will allow anyone to post unmoderated content that corporations just want out of Twitter altogether.
xienze 4y ago
Twitter was politically neutral before a few days ago? This seems more like a reaction to the Current Thing, which is "Elon man bad."
- cheaprentalyeti 4y ago
  They've replaced Emmanual Orangestein with Elonnuel Goldstein.
COGlory 4y ago
What was Twitter last week? What was Twitter when they banned a sitting president of the United States? It's only now political because Elon owns it?
- TheCoelacanth 4y ago
  You mean a sitting president who flagrantly violated their TOS? If anything it was political that they waited so long to ban him, not that they banned him when they did.
  - Zerverus 4y ago
    Exactly. Contrary to Thailand for example, the president does not get special privileges from private organsiations. People who ask for that are beyond the idea of democracy

It genuinely surprises me how many Musk defenders don’t get this. I understand the principle his no-moderation policies come from but the reality is that Twitter is going to become (even more of) a political cesspit. No brand is going to want to be associated with it.

tomp 4y ago
- afavour 4y ago
  See, statements like this are just unhelpful. It isn’t a “left” vs “right” issue. The issue is an influx of racism, anti-semitism, violent threats and much much more. Saying it’s OK because the “far left” said whatever they wanted (what are they even saying that’s so toxic?) is asinine.
- alkonaut 4y ago
  You probably want to consider the political normal to be the landscape that corporations is comfortable with. If companies become defensive then it might be politically extreme. If they are not, then it probably isn't. I think this idea that "every large company on earth seems to be 'far left'" is probably a sign that the vantage point might be shifted...
  - tomp 4y ago
    Maybe, but I'm speaking objectively. Jordan Peterson was cancelled because he claimed that Ellen/Eliot Page is a woman. This is just science/biology, which the far left deny and want to cancel. Meanwhile, you have UN Women (an official UN account) posting clearly sexist tweets like "Of all journalists killed in 2021, 11% were women." "𝐒𝐓𝐎𝐏 𝐓𝐀𝐑𝐆𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍𝐆 𝐖𝐎𝐌𝐄𝐍 𝐉𝐎𝐔𝐑𝐍𝐀𝐋𝐈𝐒𝐓𝐒". https://twitter.com/UN_Women/status/1587777181081559041 https://twitter.com/UN_Women/status/1587777181081559041
    - alkonaut 4y ago
      I think if you think that was strange or hypocritical you need to take a deep think.
- DannyBee 4y ago
  Actual studies suggest otherwise. https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2021/rml-politicalcontent https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2021/rml-polit... It's true that twitter's user base itself leans a bit left, but it's a few percent - Not like 80/20, like 54/46 or something. So calling it a "far left cesspit" is not backed up by actual data.
NickC25 4y ago
It's going to become 4chan-lite. There's just too much risk in investing into a platform that will allow anyone to post unmoderated content that corporations just want out of Twitter altogether.

xienze 4y ago

Twitter was politically neutral before a few days ago? This seems more like a reaction to the Current Thing, which is "Elon man bad."

cheaprentalyeti 4y ago
They've replaced Emmanual Orangestein with Elonnuel Goldstein.

COGlory 4y ago

What was Twitter last week? What was Twitter when they banned a sitting president of the United States? It's only now political because Elon owns it?

TheCoelacanth 4y ago
You mean a sitting president who flagrantly violated their TOS? If anything it was political that they waited so long to ban him, not that they banned him when they did.
- Zerverus 4y ago
  Exactly. Contrary to Thailand for example, the president does not get special privileges from private organsiations. People who ask for that are beyond the idea of democracy