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For me, if I were at beginning of my career I would have definitely joined Twitter. Because I have to work harder, compete harder, learn faster just to save my

For me, if I were at beginning of my career I would have definitely joined Twitter. Because I have to work harder, compete harder, learn faster just to save my job. I think that sort of culture would make you sharp than others in your field very early in your career. Then when you go and work at company like stripe, its easy.

Blokje5 4y ago
That type of culture might also cause a burnout ending your career early.
dasil003 4y ago
Do you mean working at Twitter now under Elon or historically? Because I’m not sure that Twitter has historically been more demanding.
threeseed 4y ago
And good luck to Twitter if they are looking to implement a Hunger Games style culture. However this type of attitude to work is extremely immature, counter-productive and proven to be harmful to both individuals and the company. People are most productive over the long term when they feel encouraged, supported, self-motivated etc. Positive emotions not negative ones like fear, coercion, hostility etc.
- tomp 4y ago
  > However this type of attitude to work is extremely immature, counter-productive and proven to be harmful to both individuals and the company. Because SpaceX and Tesla totally crashed and burned and are doing so much worse than Boeing and Volkswagen?
  - threeseed 4y ago
    Not sure. I think we should increase the sample size to include Boring Company and Hyperloop.
    - tiahura 4y ago
      You think those failed because of corporate culture and not market fit?
      - threeseed 4y ago
        You think SpaceX and Tesla succeeded because of corporate culture and not market fit?
        tomp 4y ago
        Clearly. Legacy car brands had electric cars (Toyota, BMW definitely). Boeing could have created landing rockets. Market wanted those products from anyone. Why didn't they? Because they're dinosaurs, asleep at the wheel. Bad corporate culture.
      - kaba0 4y ago
        While I do rather think that tesla and spacex has an unhealthy work cultural based on the limited things I read about it, these two ideas are just ridiculously dump to the point where a 3 years old wouldn’t have come up with “cars in a tunnel”.. they are ridiculous.
  - JaimeThompson 4y ago
    SpaceX and Tesla would have crashed and burned had it not been for government, of all levels, subsidizing them. Something that, now that he has benefited from it, Musk is against others having.
    - ren_engineer 4y ago
      >government, of all levels, subsidizing them and the established automakers with billion dollar war chests didn't have access to the same subsidies if they had innovated and made electric cars that didn't suck? The established military industrial complex companies like Boeing and Lockheed that have failed in their space endeavors aren't subsidized?
      - JaimeThompson 4y ago
        Musk doesn't want others to have the same subsidies that he received. It's a bit telling if you think about it.
  - jquery 4y ago
    Elon shows all the signs of thinking he can do absolutely no wrong because his fan base keeps telling him so. Nothing about this acquisition as been impressive or promising. I see no sign of that changing. A mass disrespectful layoff like this is going to backfire, hugely.
  - kaba0 4y ago
    Tesla stock is a huge bubble, so I’m not sure they are doing as good actually as their ratings would indicate..
- Overtonwindow 4y ago
  I would go to work for Twitter, if only to work for Elon. It would be better than any comparable education. Maybe I last a month, maybe I last my career, but I will probably learn a lot.
  - kaba0 4y ago
    You want to learn from an egoistic manchild who managed to make a terrible deal and forced himself to actually go through with it to buy a company that has yet to turn a profit, and I’m almost sure it will never, because he is the owner?
    - Overtonwindow 4y ago
      Yes.
pyb 4y ago
Or you might just discover that cut-throat companies often build low quality products.
UncleMeat 4y ago
> Because I have to work harder, compete harder, learn faster just to save my job. I think that sort of culture would make you sharp than others in your field very early in your career. That's a great way to get a bunch of cowboys in their 20s who think they are hot shit after five years in the industry while kicking out the people with deep experience because they actually like spending time with their families. Now you've got hyper-trendy software design everywhere with nothing supporting it.
onpensionsterm 4y ago
Perhaps you should delete prod so you have to work harder, compete harder, learn faster just to save your job

Blokje5 4y ago

That type of culture might also cause a burnout ending your career early.

dasil003 4y ago

Do you mean working at Twitter now under Elon or historically? Because I’m not sure that Twitter has historically been more demanding.

threeseed 4y ago

And good luck to Twitter if they are looking to implement a Hunger Games style culture. However this type of attitude to work is extremely immature, counter-productive and proven to be harmful to both individuals and the company. People are most productive over the long term when they feel encouraged, supported, self-motivated etc. Positive emotions not negative ones like fear, coercion, hostility etc.

tomp 4y ago
> However this type of attitude to work is extremely immature, counter-productive and proven to be harmful to both individuals and the company. Because SpaceX and Tesla totally crashed and burned and are doing so much worse than Boeing and Volkswagen?
- threeseed 4y ago
  Not sure. I think we should increase the sample size to include Boring Company and Hyperloop.
  - tiahura 4y ago
    You think those failed because of corporate culture and not market fit?
    - threeseed 4y ago
      You think SpaceX and Tesla succeeded because of corporate culture and not market fit?
      - tomp 4y ago
        Clearly. Legacy car brands had electric cars (Toyota, BMW definitely). Boeing could have created landing rockets. Market wanted those products from anyone. Why didn't they? Because they're dinosaurs, asleep at the wheel. Bad corporate culture.
    - kaba0 4y ago
      While I do rather think that tesla and spacex has an unhealthy work cultural based on the limited things I read about it, these two ideas are just ridiculously dump to the point where a 3 years old wouldn’t have come up with “cars in a tunnel”.. they are ridiculous.
- JaimeThompson 4y ago
  SpaceX and Tesla would have crashed and burned had it not been for government, of all levels, subsidizing them. Something that, now that he has benefited from it, Musk is against others having.
  - ren_engineer 4y ago
    >government, of all levels, subsidizing them and the established automakers with billion dollar war chests didn't have access to the same subsidies if they had innovated and made electric cars that didn't suck? The established military industrial complex companies like Boeing and Lockheed that have failed in their space endeavors aren't subsidized?
    - JaimeThompson 4y ago
      Musk doesn't want others to have the same subsidies that he received. It's a bit telling if you think about it.
- jquery 4y ago
  Elon shows all the signs of thinking he can do absolutely no wrong because his fan base keeps telling him so. Nothing about this acquisition as been impressive or promising. I see no sign of that changing. A mass disrespectful layoff like this is going to backfire, hugely.
- kaba0 4y ago
  Tesla stock is a huge bubble, so I’m not sure they are doing as good actually as their ratings would indicate..
Overtonwindow 4y ago
I would go to work for Twitter, if only to work for Elon. It would be better than any comparable education. Maybe I last a month, maybe I last my career, but I will probably learn a lot.
- kaba0 4y ago
  You want to learn from an egoistic manchild who managed to make a terrible deal and forced himself to actually go through with it to buy a company that has yet to turn a profit, and I’m almost sure it will never, because he is the owner?
  - Overtonwindow 4y ago
    Yes.

pyb 4y ago

Or you might just discover that cut-throat companies often build low quality products.

UncleMeat 4y ago

> Because I have to work harder, compete harder, learn faster just to save my job. I think that sort of culture would make you sharp than others in your field very early in your career. That's a great way to get a bunch of cowboys in their 20s who think they are hot shit after five years in the industry while kicking out the people with deep experience because they actually like spending time with their families. Now you've got hyper-trendy software design everywhere with nothing supporting it.

onpensionsterm 4y ago

Perhaps you should delete prod so you have to work harder, compete harder, learn faster just to save your job