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People might choose based on their preferences: You want stability? Join stripe You want to be sharp? Join Twitter

by anthropodie 4y ago

wildrhythms 4y ago
What does it mean to be sharp in this context?
- anthropodie 4y ago
  For me, if I were at beginning of my career I would have definitely joined Twitter. Because I have to work harder, compete harder, learn faster just to save my job. I think that sort of culture would make you sharp than others in your field very early in your career. Then when you go and work at company like stripe, its easy.
  - Blokje5 4y ago
    That type of culture might also cause a burnout ending your career early.
  - dasil003 4y ago
    Do you mean working at Twitter now under Elon or historically? Because I’m not sure that Twitter has historically been more demanding.
  - threeseed 4y ago
    And good luck to Twitter if they are looking to implement a Hunger Games style culture. However this type of attitude to work is extremely immature, counter-productive and proven to be harmful to both individuals and the company. People are most productive over the long term when they feel encouraged, supported, self-motivated etc. Positive emotions not negative ones like fear, coercion, hostility etc.
    - tomp 4y ago
      > However this type of attitude to work is extremely immature, counter-productive and proven to be harmful to both individuals and the company. Because SpaceX and Tesla totally crashed and burned and are doing so much worse than Boeing and Volkswagen?
      - threeseed 4y ago
        Not sure. I think we should increase the sample size to include Boring Company and Hyperloop.
        tiahura 4y ago
        You think those failed because of corporate culture and not market fit?
        threeseed 4y ago
        You think SpaceX and Tesla succeeded because of corporate culture and not market fit?
        tomp 4y ago
        Clearly. Legacy car brands had electric cars (Toyota, BMW definitely). Boeing could have created landing rockets. Market wanted those products from anyone. Why didn't they? Because they're dinosaurs, asleep at the wheel. Bad corporate culture.
        kaba0 4y ago
        While I do rather think that tesla and spacex has an unhealthy work cultural based on the limited things I read about it, these two ideas are just ridiculously dump to the point where a 3 years old wouldn’t have come up with “cars in a tunnel”.. they are ridiculous.
      - JaimeThompson 4y ago
        SpaceX and Tesla would have crashed and burned had it not been for government, of all levels, subsidizing them. Something that, now that he has benefited from it, Musk is against others having.
  - pyb 4y ago
    Or you might just discover that cut-throat companies often build low quality products.
  - UncleMeat 4y ago
    > Because I have to work harder, compete harder, learn faster just to save my job. I think that sort of culture would make you sharp than others in your field very early in your career. That's a great way to get a bunch of cowboys in their 20s who think they are hot shit after five years in the industry while kicking out the people with deep experience because they actually like spending time with their families. Now you've got hyper-trendy software design everywhere with nothing supporting it.
  - onpensionsterm 4y ago
    Perhaps you should delete prod so you have to work harder, compete harder, learn faster just to save your job
capableweb 4y ago
> You want stability? Join stripe Didn't Stripe just announce their own set of layoffs because they over-hired? That doesn't seem that stable. You want actual stability, join a fortune 500 company.
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watwut 4y ago
I dont think it would make you sharp. It would train you for ugly politics, back stabbing and general chaos. But it would not train you for good performance. You can actually hide incompetence very well in chaotic companies if you can talk well and take others credit. And competence without political clout gets punished (because it is easy). Being sharp as in the positive performance terms requires sharp leadership and decision making. It means leadership that actually knows what is going on and that requires trust. That is not the same as rage layoff after you impulse bought company you dont want while trolling on social medias.

People might choose based on their preferences: You want stability? Join stripe You want to be sharp? Join Twitter

wildrhythms 4y ago

What does it mean to be sharp in this context?

anthropodie 4y ago
For me, if I were at beginning of my career I would have definitely joined Twitter. Because I have to work harder, compete harder, learn faster just to save my job. I think that sort of culture would make you sharp than others in your field very early in your career. Then when you go and work at company like stripe, its easy.
- Blokje5 4y ago
  That type of culture might also cause a burnout ending your career early.
- dasil003 4y ago
  Do you mean working at Twitter now under Elon or historically? Because I’m not sure that Twitter has historically been more demanding.
- threeseed 4y ago
  And good luck to Twitter if they are looking to implement a Hunger Games style culture. However this type of attitude to work is extremely immature, counter-productive and proven to be harmful to both individuals and the company. People are most productive over the long term when they feel encouraged, supported, self-motivated etc. Positive emotions not negative ones like fear, coercion, hostility etc.
  - tomp 4y ago
    > However this type of attitude to work is extremely immature, counter-productive and proven to be harmful to both individuals and the company. Because SpaceX and Tesla totally crashed and burned and are doing so much worse than Boeing and Volkswagen?
    - threeseed 4y ago
      Not sure. I think we should increase the sample size to include Boring Company and Hyperloop.
      - tiahura 4y ago
        You think those failed because of corporate culture and not market fit?
        threeseed 4y ago
        You think SpaceX and Tesla succeeded because of corporate culture and not market fit?
        tomp 4y ago
        Clearly. Legacy car brands had electric cars (Toyota, BMW definitely). Boeing could have created landing rockets. Market wanted those products from anyone. Why didn't they? Because they're dinosaurs, asleep at the wheel. Bad corporate culture.
        kaba0 4y ago
        While I do rather think that tesla and spacex has an unhealthy work cultural based on the limited things I read about it, these two ideas are just ridiculously dump to the point where a 3 years old wouldn’t have come up with “cars in a tunnel”.. they are ridiculous.
    - JaimeThompson 4y ago
      SpaceX and Tesla would have crashed and burned had it not been for government, of all levels, subsidizing them. Something that, now that he has benefited from it, Musk is against others having.
- pyb 4y ago
  Or you might just discover that cut-throat companies often build low quality products.
- UncleMeat 4y ago
  > Because I have to work harder, compete harder, learn faster just to save my job. I think that sort of culture would make you sharp than others in your field very early in your career. That's a great way to get a bunch of cowboys in their 20s who think they are hot shit after five years in the industry while kicking out the people with deep experience because they actually like spending time with their families. Now you've got hyper-trendy software design everywhere with nothing supporting it.
- onpensionsterm 4y ago
  Perhaps you should delete prod so you have to work harder, compete harder, learn faster just to save your job

capableweb 4y ago

> You want stability? Join stripe Didn't Stripe just announce their own set of layoffs because they over-hired? That doesn't seem that stable. You want actual stability, join a fortune 500 company.

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watwut 4y ago

I dont think it would make you sharp. It would train you for ugly politics, back stabbing and general chaos. But it would not train you for good performance. You can actually hide incompetence very well in chaotic companies if you can talk well and take others credit. And competence without political clout gets punished (because it is easy). Being sharp as in the positive performance terms requires sharp leadership and decision making. It means leadership that actually knows what is going on and that requires trust. That is not the same as rage layoff after you impulse bought company you dont want while trolling on social medias.