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Emacs is the prime example of a lisp project HN itself is (was ?) Written in lisp if I'm not mistaken There is this list https://common-lisp.net/lisp-companie

Emacs is the prime example of a lisp project HN itself is (was ?) Written in lisp if I'm not mistaken There is this list https://common-lisp.net/lisp-companies https://common-lisp.net/lisp-companies Racket/scheme are lisp, you'll have to include them as well.

_s_a_m_ 4y ago
What significantly else? These seems to be many reasons why people dont use Lisp.
- Davidbrcz 4y ago
  Maxima, the CAS system
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- pjmlp 4y ago
  Lisp was Python in the first AI wave, and having it failing to meet expectations burned many bridges. Commercial software + hardware required to comfortably run Lisp Machines was more expensive than UNIX workstations. Having paid for UNIX workstations, most shops would just use C and C++ instead of paying for commercial Lisp packages on top, plus scripting languages like Tcl and Perl brought a bit of Lisp like experience into UNIX. Eventually most of the stuff that made Lisp awesome ended up in Smalltalk, Java. .NET, Dylan, Julia, Python however there is still plenty missing from the whole experience.
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- TurboHaskal 4y ago
  Are you perhaps implying programming languages are chosen on technical merits?
- thesuperbigfrog 4y ago
  The Interleaf document creation software was written in Lisp: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interleaf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interleaf It lives on today as Broadvision QuickSilver, which still runs on Lisp: https://broadvision.com/broadvision/quicksilver/quicksilver-overview/ https://broadvision.com/broadvision/quicksilver/quicksilver-...
- slowmovintarget 4y ago
  The whole Clojure ecosystem is another worth considering, including systems like Datomic, and Datomic Cloud (commercial product and SaaS product respectively).
iLoveOncall 4y ago
> There is this list https://common-lisp.net/lisp-companies https://common-lisp.net/lisp-companies If you have so few that you can maintain a list, it kinda proves OP's point. Also as an addendum to his point, what about projects being written in the last decade or two? Emacs is cool, but it was created in 1976...
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- vindarel 4y ago
  Before this list, people said "Sure CL is used in production, there's Google and uh… Autocad". Now, we collect companies that we hear about. Nothing "official" nor exhaustive, of course. You can still complain, but not for the same reason ;) BTW this one is the list they are based on: https://github.com/azzamsa/awesome-lisp-companies/ https://github.com/azzamsa/awesome-lisp-companies/ See also https://lisp-lang.org/success/ https://lisp-lang.org/success/ http://www.lispworks.com/success-stories/index.html http://www.lispworks.com/success-stories/index.html
  - User23 4y ago
    I thought AutoCAD was, like Emacs, written in its own ancient idiosyncratic dialect?
    - vindarel 4y ago
      yes! that's part of the illustration of the (past) lame lack of examples.
    - medo-bear 4y ago
      AutoCAD might (depending on the version) have an interpreter for AutoLISP scripting language. however it's not written itself in any form of lisp
- Davidbrcz 4y ago
  Every programming language doesn't have to be trendy on GitHub with a bazillion projects. Lisp was a major programming language as it powered nearly all AI research for many many years and many of it's ideas have spread into languages we use today. For instance, it was the first language with a garbage collector ! It has many more or less direct descendents that are used The fact it was created some 70 years ago, but still run nearly unchanged and has active users and project is an achievement.

_s_a_m_ 4y ago

What significantly else? These seems to be many reasons why people dont use Lisp.

Davidbrcz 4y ago
Maxima, the CAS system
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pjmlp 4y ago
Lisp was Python in the first AI wave, and having it failing to meet expectations burned many bridges. Commercial software + hardware required to comfortably run Lisp Machines was more expensive than UNIX workstations. Having paid for UNIX workstations, most shops would just use C and C++ instead of paying for commercial Lisp packages on top, plus scripting languages like Tcl and Perl brought a bit of Lisp like experience into UNIX. Eventually most of the stuff that made Lisp awesome ended up in Smalltalk, Java. .NET, Dylan, Julia, Python however there is still plenty missing from the whole experience.
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TurboHaskal 4y ago
Are you perhaps implying programming languages are chosen on technical merits?
thesuperbigfrog 4y ago
The Interleaf document creation software was written in Lisp: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interleaf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interleaf It lives on today as Broadvision QuickSilver, which still runs on Lisp: https://broadvision.com/broadvision/quicksilver/quicksilver-overview/ https://broadvision.com/broadvision/quicksilver/quicksilver-...
slowmovintarget 4y ago
The whole Clojure ecosystem is another worth considering, including systems like Datomic, and Datomic Cloud (commercial product and SaaS product respectively).

iLoveOncall 4y ago

> There is this list https://common-lisp.net/lisp-companies https://common-lisp.net/lisp-companies If you have so few that you can maintain a list, it kinda proves OP's point. Also as an addendum to his point, what about projects being written in the last decade or two? Emacs is cool, but it was created in 1976...

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vindarel 4y ago
Before this list, people said "Sure CL is used in production, there's Google and uh… Autocad". Now, we collect companies that we hear about. Nothing "official" nor exhaustive, of course. You can still complain, but not for the same reason ;) BTW this one is the list they are based on: https://github.com/azzamsa/awesome-lisp-companies/ https://github.com/azzamsa/awesome-lisp-companies/ See also https://lisp-lang.org/success/ https://lisp-lang.org/success/ http://www.lispworks.com/success-stories/index.html http://www.lispworks.com/success-stories/index.html
- User23 4y ago
  I thought AutoCAD was, like Emacs, written in its own ancient idiosyncratic dialect?
  - vindarel 4y ago
    yes! that's part of the illustration of the (past) lame lack of examples.
  - medo-bear 4y ago
    AutoCAD might (depending on the version) have an interpreter for AutoLISP scripting language. however it's not written itself in any form of lisp
Davidbrcz 4y ago
Every programming language doesn't have to be trendy on GitHub with a bazillion projects. Lisp was a major programming language as it powered nearly all AI research for many many years and many of it's ideas have spread into languages we use today. For instance, it was the first language with a garbage collector ! It has many more or less direct descendents that are used The fact it was created some 70 years ago, but still run nearly unchanged and has active users and project is an achievement.