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Actually difficult to find dates irl. Beyond apps, or any methods, lots of females are just busy with life. They got friends, hobbies, social media, endless en

Actually difficult to find dates irl. Beyond apps, or any methods, lots of females are just busy with life. They got friends, hobbies, social media, endless entertainment and a career path. I wonder if we'll go the way of Japan, where virtual girlfriends and virtual social lives are increasingly seen as a better option then real life relationships. As technology gets better, I think this will be a more default option for people. Imagine dating someone that's always available, always interested in you and your hobbies, and there's never any need to compromise. You can pause them at any time when you are tired etc. Not to mention less and less people have best friends or friends. More interactions is purely virtual. At some point, if a bot passed the Turing test, what's the difference? Virtual youtubers have a mass following despite being a purely virtual being. Could an AI model be trained to act like them, with the latest AI voices that sound real? Honestly, I'm the same. Dating is just so time consuming and there's no many other things I want to do. Work is already 6+ hours, watching anime, playing games, reading, writing, doing podcast and walking. So much I want to do and so little time. Or maybe I'm just saying this cause I have no partner kek

bckr 4y ago
> females Callin 'em "women" would be a step in the right direction re: dating.
- Elinvynia 4y ago
  Unless you're a Ferengi, then it's okay!
KronisLV 4y ago
> At some point, if a bot passed the Turing test, what's the difference? Virtual youtubers have a mass following despite being a purely virtual being. Could an AI model be trained to act like them, with the latest AI voices that sound real? There have actually been attempts at creating AI chatbots for companionship, like Replika: https://replika.ai/ https://replika.ai/ It was curious to take a look at it, but it very obviously had its limitations and was directed towards watered down conversation and whatnot, for being marketable. Probably still useful or therapeutic for some folks to talk or vent when nobody is available! That said, the idea of actually building "relationships" with bots has garnered some criticism, here's one example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUQNiy4K7VU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUQNiy4K7VU It is exaggerated for views, but at the end of the day you'd still end up with a possibly unhealthy substitute for an actual human connection, much like attempting to replace aspects of intimacy with pornography. Even outside of things like that, parasocial relationships usually aren't very healthy either, since you're still an audience, as opposed to interacting 1:1 with another person. Also, those VTubers still have real people behind them, with their own senses of humor, personalities and other aspects, which wouldn't even be easy for AI to replicate or substitute. Personally, I try not to be too judgmental of these things, because everything that I named probably has a place in the lives of many folks out there, but looking for ways of turning away from human relationships reminds me of something like "Bowling Alone": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowling_Alone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowling_Alone I also say that as someone who isn't doing too well with dating, admittedly.
- BlueTemplar 4y ago
  Yeah, I've been wondering about whether vtubers have not been handicapping themselves by not using their much more expressive real faces... (and before someone points it out, this is not that much about looking attractive : consider the many otherwise pretty photograph-ugly comedians and stand up artists that are completely transformed thanks to their wit and charisma...)
- _chu1 4y ago
  I would rather be lonely for the rest of my life than get fake companionship from a bot. The fact that already exists is dystopian as all hell.
astrange 4y ago
> I wonder if we'll go the way of Japan, where virtual girlfriends and virtual social lives are increasingly seen as a better option then real life relationships. That's overstated. Japanese people weren't into relationships because their economy was bad, which made them not marriage material. (They still had sex though, just not relationships.) It's improved a little; you don't hear so much about hopeless otaku anymore and the birth rate has gone up slightly.
ReactiveJelly 4y ago
Erotic role-playing with an offline bot would be pretty cool.
BlueTemplar 4y ago
Well, there are a lots of issues with this, so I will just point at the most obvious one : if ultimately one of your main goals is to find someone to raise your kids with, it's more of a hindrance than a help.

bckr 4y ago

> females Callin 'em "women" would be a step in the right direction re: dating.

Elinvynia 4y ago
Unless you're a Ferengi, then it's okay!

KronisLV 4y ago

> At some point, if a bot passed the Turing test, what's the difference? Virtual youtubers have a mass following despite being a purely virtual being. Could an AI model be trained to act like them, with the latest AI voices that sound real? There have actually been attempts at creating AI chatbots for companionship, like Replika: https://replika.ai/ https://replika.ai/ It was curious to take a look at it, but it very obviously had its limitations and was directed towards watered down conversation and whatnot, for being marketable. Probably still useful or therapeutic for some folks to talk or vent when nobody is available! That said, the idea of actually building "relationships" with bots has garnered some criticism, here's one example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUQNiy4K7VU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUQNiy4K7VU It is exaggerated for views, but at the end of the day you'd still end up with a possibly unhealthy substitute for an actual human connection, much like attempting to replace aspects of intimacy with pornography. Even outside of things like that, parasocial relationships usually aren't very healthy either, since you're still an audience, as opposed to interacting 1:1 with another person. Also, those VTubers still have real people behind them, with their own senses of humor, personalities and other aspects, which wouldn't even be easy for AI to replicate or substitute. Personally, I try not to be too judgmental of these things, because everything that I named probably has a place in the lives of many folks out there, but looking for ways of turning away from human relationships reminds me of something like "Bowling Alone": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowling_Alone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowling_Alone I also say that as someone who isn't doing too well with dating, admittedly.

BlueTemplar 4y ago
Yeah, I've been wondering about whether vtubers have not been handicapping themselves by not using their much more expressive real faces... (and before someone points it out, this is not that much about looking attractive : consider the many otherwise pretty photograph-ugly comedians and stand up artists that are completely transformed thanks to their wit and charisma...)
_chu1 4y ago
I would rather be lonely for the rest of my life than get fake companionship from a bot. The fact that already exists is dystopian as all hell.

astrange 4y ago

> I wonder if we'll go the way of Japan, where virtual girlfriends and virtual social lives are increasingly seen as a better option then real life relationships. That's overstated. Japanese people weren't into relationships because their economy was bad, which made them not marriage material. (They still had sex though, just not relationships.) It's improved a little; you don't hear so much about hopeless otaku anymore and the birth rate has gone up slightly.

ReactiveJelly 4y ago

Erotic role-playing with an offline bot would be pretty cool.

BlueTemplar 4y ago

Well, there are a lots of issues with this, so I will just point at the most obvious one : if ultimately one of your main goals is to find someone to raise your kids with, it's more of a hindrance than a help.