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title should say 2014. Wow! that is an absolutely EPIC rant. cannot believe I hadn't seen this until now. I'm not sure I agree with everything Barry said, but
by fargle 4y ago
title should say 2014.
Wow! that is an absolutely EPIC rant. cannot believe I hadn't seen this until now. I'm not sure I agree with everything Barry said, but it does push a lot of buttons that ring true for me.
And since 2014, systemd gained skills to control everything from home directories to secure boot, containers, privilege escalation, and (apparently) mind control, time, dns, and temporary files. It also automatically re-installs pulseaudio and reports you directly to the council of Lennart if you "accidentally" delete or turn any of it off out of frustration.
I also never knew Poettering was behind (er. responsible for) avahi discovery. I must remember to properly thank him for this someday.
So yes, given the benefit of six(edit) *eight years of hindsight, I think we all should've listen a bit more to Barry and perhaps slowed down and found some simplistic-er options.
- dane-pgp 4y agoI think you're strawmanning his argument a little bit. He didn't say that systemd has mind control powers, or reports you to some council. All he says is that systemd is "Substance D" (so it's psychoactive if ingested) and is a "medusa" (meaning it turns people to stone if they look it in the eye, although presumably he meant it's a "hydra").
- fargle 4y agooh no, true. I said all that - on top of what he said. And I didn't imply Barry said this either, it's all just what I characterize has happened 8 years hence. But I contend, after having corresponded with systemd apologists, that it truly is mindcontrold at work.
- dane-pgp 4y agoFair enough, thanks for the clarification. You are standing on the shoulders of a giant, then, and if your characterization is not yet correct, I'm sure it will be proven so within another 8 years.