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https://www.wired.com/2012/03/feds-seize-foreign-sites/ https://www.wired.com/2012/03/feds-seize-foreign-sites/

by CameronNemo 4y ago

ajsnigrutin 4y ago
So they need a ".ru" domain, or some us-unfriendly country then?
- onetimeusename 4y ago
  that might work, yes. I wouldn't expect it to last forever though because the US gov doesn't like jurisdictions that evade their power. Russians could seize it if they felt like it too. I have some experience with that. Ideally you would exploit bad diplomatic relations between nations to keep things running. Mutually non cooperative jurisdictions can actually be good for the internet. I do think the intention of the US gov is to completely control the internet though, copyright and DRM violations being a major motivation. As much as they claim they are about 'cooperation and collaboration' or some other nonsense, it's really about hard power.
  - from 4y ago
    to, is, su, etc. There are enough TLDs to last a lifetime for a pirate site operator.
    - onetimeusename 4y ago
      well .su is Russia. Not sure how to say this without pissing a lot of people off but it would not surprise me if there were some treaties they signed to cooperate with US LE in the not-so-distant future based on how things are going. Also they can seize the domain for themselves. the .to domain I believe can be seized but I don't know the conditions. .is can be seized but it is rare. The other thing is that treaties can be changed and the US can strong-arm people. Right now they work, I don't know if they always will.
      - from 4y ago
        They would really only take it down if Russian media was on there and they complained in Russian court. That’s why rutracker got in trouble. No local victim = no crime according to Russia and in practice most countries actually. Problem is libgen has lots of Russian stuff.
- cryptonector 4y ago
  I wonder how far we are from partitioning the DNS with alternate roots. If the Ukraine war doesn't make it happen, DRM violations might.
- yurish 4y ago
  Russian authorities blocked some zlib domains in the past, so "ru" may be not suitable.

https://www.wired.com/2012/03/feds-seize-foreign-sites/ https://www.wired.com/2012/03/feds-seize-foreign-sites/

ajsnigrutin 4y ago

So they need a ".ru" domain, or some us-unfriendly country then?

onetimeusename 4y ago
that might work, yes. I wouldn't expect it to last forever though because the US gov doesn't like jurisdictions that evade their power. Russians could seize it if they felt like it too. I have some experience with that. Ideally you would exploit bad diplomatic relations between nations to keep things running. Mutually non cooperative jurisdictions can actually be good for the internet. I do think the intention of the US gov is to completely control the internet though, copyright and DRM violations being a major motivation. As much as they claim they are about 'cooperation and collaboration' or some other nonsense, it's really about hard power.
- from 4y ago
  to, is, su, etc. There are enough TLDs to last a lifetime for a pirate site operator.
  - onetimeusename 4y ago
    well .su is Russia. Not sure how to say this without pissing a lot of people off but it would not surprise me if there were some treaties they signed to cooperate with US LE in the not-so-distant future based on how things are going. Also they can seize the domain for themselves. the .to domain I believe can be seized but I don't know the conditions. .is can be seized but it is rare. The other thing is that treaties can be changed and the US can strong-arm people. Right now they work, I don't know if they always will.
    - from 4y ago
      They would really only take it down if Russian media was on there and they complained in Russian court. That’s why rutracker got in trouble. No local victim = no crime according to Russia and in practice most countries actually. Problem is libgen has lots of Russian stuff.
cryptonector 4y ago
I wonder how far we are from partitioning the DNS with alternate roots. If the Ukraine war doesn't make it happen, DRM violations might.
yurish 4y ago
Russian authorities blocked some zlib domains in the past, so "ru" may be not suitable.