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I've been telling myself I'd buy the next flagship AMD since before Vega. I think I might actually do it this time! AV1 encode is exciting. The rumormill has b

I've been telling myself I'd buy the next flagship AMD since before Vega. I think I might actually do it this time! AV1 encode is exciting. The rumormill has been going back & forth between monolithic vs chiplet. Cool to see they seemingly did it. It definitely comes at some kind of power cost, some struggle, but given the expense of modern processes it just seems infeasible to build cutting edge chips at the dame huge sizes. This had to happen, so faults in fabbing affect smaller pieces of the chip. My only ask here is, I wish AMD would add some USB4 outputs. It's not normal- monitors arent built for it but they could be- but ideally with 60w+ power delivery too. Add pcie/thunderbolt. Make this the io card of the computer.

mjevans 4y ago
Passing even more power through the videocard sounds like an expensive challenge. Presumably you'd also prefer the card to be able to drive 2-3 monitors, which is already 1-2 additional PCIe 12v 8 pin connectors (old tech). That also assumes monitors which can be driven by 60W, which seems unlikely where these cards are used. USB cables are also only rated for such high data transfer rates over very short distances, or active cables; which are inherently more expensive. DisplayPort cables have claims, by well known brands near the top of google results, of supporting passive cables of at least 15 meters. A single HDMI is included to accommodate devices like TVs, presentation systems, etc.
- rektide 4y ago
  I would be unshocked to see a usb-c to displayport pigtail adapter & long DisplayPort cable have degredation. Given that cards are often space limited & sometimes use things like mini displayport to cram more ports in (since the gpu can often drive 5 or 6 displays), having a small usb-c port or 2 seems like a really good alternative, with litte sacrifice, and great potential usability boon. The elrlectrical doesnt seem daunting to me. People hem and haw over how a $5 BOM cost can escallate in real world impact, but it feels like significant over-concern, amd when you are talking about a GPU costing up to $1000, it feels like an obvious way to differentiate & make users happy. The jack wouldnt have to be used for video. Being able to plug a laptop in or a powered hard drive or a battery to charge would be a gratis service. I certainly hope over time we see more usb pd powered monitors come out, but right now I just feel like this ultra high end io monster should also support modern io standards & connections, and adding a stupidly efficient (98%) $2 buck regulator, a $2 control chip to support thr obviously better nice version of the io standard that also does power is not just obvious, but painfully obvious, and it stinks & is a glaring smell that there's literally no options here, for these expensive adapters.

mjevans 4y ago

Passing even more power through the videocard sounds like an expensive challenge. Presumably you'd also prefer the card to be able to drive 2-3 monitors, which is already 1-2 additional PCIe 12v 8 pin connectors (old tech). That also assumes monitors which can be driven by 60W, which seems unlikely where these cards are used. USB cables are also only rated for such high data transfer rates over very short distances, or active cables; which are inherently more expensive. DisplayPort cables have claims, by well known brands near the top of google results, of supporting passive cables of at least 15 meters. A single HDMI is included to accommodate devices like TVs, presentation systems, etc.

rektide 4y ago
I would be unshocked to see a usb-c to displayport pigtail adapter & long DisplayPort cable have degredation. Given that cards are often space limited & sometimes use things like mini displayport to cram more ports in (since the gpu can often drive 5 or 6 displays), having a small usb-c port or 2 seems like a really good alternative, with litte sacrifice, and great potential usability boon. The elrlectrical doesnt seem daunting to me. People hem and haw over how a $5 BOM cost can escallate in real world impact, but it feels like significant over-concern, amd when you are talking about a GPU costing up to $1000, it feels like an obvious way to differentiate & make users happy. The jack wouldnt have to be used for video. Being able to plug a laptop in or a powered hard drive or a battery to charge would be a gratis service. I certainly hope over time we see more usb pd powered monitors come out, but right now I just feel like this ultra high end io monster should also support modern io standards & connections, and adding a stupidly efficient (98%) $2 buck regulator, a $2 control chip to support thr obviously better nice version of the io standard that also does power is not just obvious, but painfully obvious, and it stinks & is a glaring smell that there's literally no options here, for these expensive adapters.