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>I look at class actions as having two purposes . . . to require that the defendant stops doing something That's my point. Many of the class members don't want
by D13Fd 4y ago
>I look at class actions as having two purposes . . . to require that the defendant stops doing something
That's my point. Many of the class members don't want the company to stop doing this.
I have code on GitHub, and Copilot is a useful tool. I don't care if my code was used to train the model. Sure, I personally could opt out of the suit, but that would be utterly meaningless in the grand scheme of things. The bottom line is, if I'm a coder with code on Github and I like Copilot, this suit is a huge net negative.
Even more importantly, I want to see the next version of Copilot that will be created by some other company, and then the next version after that. I want development to continue in this area at a high velocity. This suit does nothing but put giant screeching brakes on that development, and that is just a shame.
- heavyset_go 4y agoIf you don't feel like you're being represented, you're free to choose not to be a member of class in the lawsuit.
- D13Fd 4y ago> If you don't feel like you're being represented, you're free to choose not to be a member of class in the lawsuit. I think you missed this part: > Sure, I personally could opt out of the suit, but that would be utterly meaningless in the grand scheme of things.
- heavyset_go 4y agoThat I did, thanks for pointing it out. Phone posting does that.
- ImPostingOnHN 4y agowhy would it be meaningless? seems like a great opportunity for Microsoft to alter copilot so it's opt-in to get your code scanned, and to mandatorily add licensing and attribution to outputs I know you said you're OK with it as is, but many aren't, so if I'm a coder, this suit represents a big net positive for me, being a way to reduce the probability of someone laundering my code away without proper attribution or license attention
- theamk 4y agoIf lawsuit goes through, it's not likely that Copilot would disappear.. but there would be a checkbox to opt-in your code. You could check it and your code will be used to train model. I have some code on Github as well and would not want it to be used in training, nor by Microsoft nor by other company. It is under GPL license to ensure that any derived use is public and not stripped of copyrights and locked into proprietary codebase, and copilot is pretty much 100% opposite of this.