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Because the same reason they have already tried with WSL... They are losing too many developers.

mickael-kerjean 4y ago
WSL on my office laptop takes 10s to boot and if you CTRL+C before it gives the prompt it shows a python stacktrace. I can only hope that by the time the people who have only ever used windows retire, windows will become as relevant as what cobol is today which is probably an insult to cobol as it's not known to make blue death screen on ATM and airport screen
- borissk 4y ago
  As everyone else you're living in a bubble. In your bubble people probably do hate Windows. Given HN origin in the Silicon Valley - where macOS and Linux are very popular - probably the majority of HN users also hate Windows. But that doesn't say anything about the majority of the developers out there. From my experience Python and Ruby guys usually do use Linux and macOS, while .NET and Java devs run almost always Windows on their PCs and laptops.
  - BeefWellington 4y ago
    The overwhelming majority of developers I interact with these days are on MacOS, and it's not even close. Probably a 80-20 MacOS to Windows ratio. I'm not in Silicon Valley, and I work with people from lots of different companies. Every company that offers the option for devs to have a Macbook, that seems to be what the "average" dev is choosing for a while now. This is obviously an anecdotal sample size but I'm looking at a group of about 30 companies over the past year ranging in size from < 15 employees to up to 500, and everything in between. M1 has made a lot of people eager to jump too.
    - encryptluks2 4y ago
      Same... a lot of it has to do with just the convenience of Mac shell being more native than the janky WSL implementation that does take time to startup and is noticeable, and not having to worry about a translation layer for volumes.
    - borissk 4y ago
      Ask a C#/.NET and he'll tell you 90% of the developers he knows use Windows laptops (the real Visual Studio works only under Windows). There are more than 10M professional .NET developers out there.

WSL on my office laptop takes 10s to boot and if you CTRL+C before it gives the prompt it shows a python stacktrace. I can only hope that by the time the people who have only ever used windows retire, windows will become as relevant as what cobol is today which is probably an insult to cobol as it's not known to make blue death screen on ATM and airport screen

borissk 4y ago
As everyone else you're living in a bubble. In your bubble people probably do hate Windows. Given HN origin in the Silicon Valley - where macOS and Linux are very popular - probably the majority of HN users also hate Windows. But that doesn't say anything about the majority of the developers out there. From my experience Python and Ruby guys usually do use Linux and macOS, while .NET and Java devs run almost always Windows on their PCs and laptops.
- BeefWellington 4y ago
  The overwhelming majority of developers I interact with these days are on MacOS, and it's not even close. Probably a 80-20 MacOS to Windows ratio. I'm not in Silicon Valley, and I work with people from lots of different companies. Every company that offers the option for devs to have a Macbook, that seems to be what the "average" dev is choosing for a while now. This is obviously an anecdotal sample size but I'm looking at a group of about 30 companies over the past year ranging in size from < 15 employees to up to 500, and everything in between. M1 has made a lot of people eager to jump too.
  - encryptluks2 4y ago
    Same... a lot of it has to do with just the convenience of Mac shell being more native than the janky WSL implementation that does take time to startup and is noticeable, and not having to worry about a translation layer for volumes.
  - borissk 4y ago
    Ask a C#/.NET and he'll tell you 90% of the developers he knows use Windows laptops (the real Visual Studio works only under Windows). There are more than 10M professional .NET developers out there.