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> Young people have to work hard If people have to work hard to make a good living in the 21st century that we are now in, then it means that whatever society

> Young people have to work hard If people have to work hard to make a good living in the 21st century that we are now in, then it means that whatever society they are in has failed.

refurb 4y ago
No it's not. Clearly our standard of living keeps improving, so costs keep going up. I could work 10 hours a week and easily afford a 1920's lifestyle. But I prefer 21st century healthcare.
- unity1001 4y ago
  > But I prefer 21st century healthcare Perfectly viable anywhere without privatized healthcare. Today, we are able to have only ~10% of the population work, and keep all the living standards of the 90% majority.
  - refurb 4y ago
    No, you’re not going to be able to afford gene therapy on a 1920’s income
    - unity1001 4y ago
      Gene therapy is still experimental. So its not an argument.
hnews_account_1 4y ago
Unless you are born disabled, you’d better be born in a society that values hard work. At least until we reach self sustaining societies where no one needs to work, the dynamics of which are not worth speculation from our current standpoint in history.
- unity1001 4y ago
  > At least until we reach self sustaining societies We are beyond 'self sustaining society'. We are throwing away food to protect market prices, we have planned obsolescence that makes perfectly fine devices to be thrown away to force people to buy new devices, we have more empty houses than the number of homeless. The existing scarcity is artificial. Not something real.
  - hnews_account_1 4y ago
    Again this is incorrect. The only thing we have is artificial food security where we have issues with transport despite manufacturing enough to end global hunger. There isn’t enough housing to accommodate everyone. If you mean there are enough buildings, that is a cruel joke to the homeless. Lol the best part though is thinking we are post scarcity. I thought this place had more brains than reddit or other idiotic forums.
    - unity1001 4y ago
      Sorry, all of your propositions are incorrect. But Im not interested in engaging a lengthy discussion.
cr4nberry 4y ago
Maybe because they enjoy work and the learning that comes with it? Or because they want to outdo the preexisting products?

> Young people have to work hard If people have to work hard to make a good living in the 21st century that we are now in, then it means that whatever society they are in has failed.

refurb 4y ago

No it's not. Clearly our standard of living keeps improving, so costs keep going up. I could work 10 hours a week and easily afford a 1920's lifestyle. But I prefer 21st century healthcare.

unity1001 4y ago
> But I prefer 21st century healthcare Perfectly viable anywhere without privatized healthcare. Today, we are able to have only ~10% of the population work, and keep all the living standards of the 90% majority.
- refurb 4y ago
  No, you’re not going to be able to afford gene therapy on a 1920’s income
  - unity1001 4y ago
    Gene therapy is still experimental. So its not an argument.

hnews_account_1 4y ago

Unless you are born disabled, you’d better be born in a society that values hard work. At least until we reach self sustaining societies where no one needs to work, the dynamics of which are not worth speculation from our current standpoint in history.

unity1001 4y ago
> At least until we reach self sustaining societies We are beyond 'self sustaining society'. We are throwing away food to protect market prices, we have planned obsolescence that makes perfectly fine devices to be thrown away to force people to buy new devices, we have more empty houses than the number of homeless. The existing scarcity is artificial. Not something real.
- hnews_account_1 4y ago
  Again this is incorrect. The only thing we have is artificial food security where we have issues with transport despite manufacturing enough to end global hunger. There isn’t enough housing to accommodate everyone. If you mean there are enough buildings, that is a cruel joke to the homeless. Lol the best part though is thinking we are post scarcity. I thought this place had more brains than reddit or other idiotic forums.
  - unity1001 4y ago
    Sorry, all of your propositions are incorrect. But Im not interested in engaging a lengthy discussion.

cr4nberry 4y ago

Maybe because they enjoy work and the learning that comes with it? Or because they want to outdo the preexisting products?