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They should kill entirety of Outlook.com. It's been years and they can't get the spam under control. Nor the absolutely garbage UI.

mixedmath 4y ago
If they got rid of outlook, then I'd have to find a new email address to give away to every signin place that wants my email and I suspect will email me promotional garbage (or sell my email). I guess this means that I'm reducing the signal they get for what "good" email is, as approximately 100 percent of the emails I get there are promotional or spam.
sydney6 4y ago
What do you mean by that? Are you having spam in your inbox or do mean deliverability issues to *.outlook.com?
- blinkingled 4y ago
  Steadily growing spam sent to my Inbox. Delivery issues I have not had those recently but 3 years or so ago my job offer letter was not received. I was kinda spooked after that.
  - sydney6 4y ago
    OK, thanks. well, that is indeed quite unfortunate.. regarding things like lost job offers and the like.. Sad state of affairs, i mean e-mail in 2022. But, as an mail-service operator myself, i feel like i can understand, more or less, both sides dealing with the spam issue.
abswest 4y ago
I've been using Outlook email primarily for the last decade. Not that much spam, compared to other mailboxes I have.
D13Fd 4y ago
You mean the e-mail client that the vast majority of U.S. companies use daily to send and receive millions if not billions of emails? Yeah, I'm sure they'll get right on that.
- P5fRxh5kUvp2th 4y ago
  Outlook is terrible, regardless. I've been using it on and off since the 90's and it feels like it gets worse every year, the current iteration is barely usable.
  - denysvitali 4y ago
    As always Microsoft prioritizes the wrong things: for example with Microsoft Teams (they're not addressing the performance issues). Same goes with Outlook. See what they introduced recently: https://twitter.com/DenysVitali/status/1587752974062944256 https://twitter.com/DenysVitali/status/1587752974062944256 Wtf?
    - svnpenn 4y ago
      > Microsoft Teams Teams is just a an Electron (AKA Chrome shit-client) program. So nothing can be done, unless they want to re-write the program from scratch. I'm not saying the current situation is acceptable, its not. But when you choose Electron, you more or less doom your product to having awful performance forever.
      - D13Fd 4y ago
        I don't believe that nothing can be done just because it's electron. VS Code gets perfectly fine performance.
        svnpenn 4y ago
        > VS Code gets perfectly fine performance did you forget a "/s" or something?
barbazoo 4y ago
They all have problems with spam. Outlook, Google, Fastmail. I wouldn't say that's a reason to shut the service down.
- blinkingled 4y ago
  The difference is I hardly ever see spam on Gmail and Fastmail. Whereas outlook it's 10 delivered every 4hours that the Android app notifies me for! And stuff that should be easily identifiable as spam too.
vezycash 4y ago
The SWEEP feature of outlook is the ultimate email spam feature. If you've never used it, try it and your spam problem will be poof in a few clicks. It's a pity sweep is desktop web only. Their email alias feature is cool, allows you to change your login ID retroactively. I wish they'd take it a step further by allowing me to set a login-only ID e.g. the login ID cannot be used to send nor receive emails (security by obscurity).

mixedmath 4y ago

If they got rid of outlook, then I'd have to find a new email address to give away to every signin place that wants my email and I suspect will email me promotional garbage (or sell my email). I guess this means that I'm reducing the signal they get for what "good" email is, as approximately 100 percent of the emails I get there are promotional or spam.

sydney6 4y ago

What do you mean by that? Are you having spam in your inbox or do mean deliverability issues to *.outlook.com?

blinkingled 4y ago
Steadily growing spam sent to my Inbox. Delivery issues I have not had those recently but 3 years or so ago my job offer letter was not received. I was kinda spooked after that.
- sydney6 4y ago
  OK, thanks. well, that is indeed quite unfortunate.. regarding things like lost job offers and the like.. Sad state of affairs, i mean e-mail in 2022. But, as an mail-service operator myself, i feel like i can understand, more or less, both sides dealing with the spam issue.

abswest 4y ago

I've been using Outlook email primarily for the last decade. Not that much spam, compared to other mailboxes I have.

D13Fd 4y ago

You mean the e-mail client that the vast majority of U.S. companies use daily to send and receive millions if not billions of emails? Yeah, I'm sure they'll get right on that.

P5fRxh5kUvp2th 4y ago
Outlook is terrible, regardless. I've been using it on and off since the 90's and it feels like it gets worse every year, the current iteration is barely usable.
- denysvitali 4y ago
  As always Microsoft prioritizes the wrong things: for example with Microsoft Teams (they're not addressing the performance issues). Same goes with Outlook. See what they introduced recently: https://twitter.com/DenysVitali/status/1587752974062944256 https://twitter.com/DenysVitali/status/1587752974062944256 Wtf?
  - svnpenn 4y ago
    > Microsoft Teams Teams is just a an Electron (AKA Chrome shit-client) program. So nothing can be done, unless they want to re-write the program from scratch. I'm not saying the current situation is acceptable, its not. But when you choose Electron, you more or less doom your product to having awful performance forever.
    - D13Fd 4y ago
      I don't believe that nothing can be done just because it's electron. VS Code gets perfectly fine performance.
      - svnpenn 4y ago
        > VS Code gets perfectly fine performance did you forget a "/s" or something?

barbazoo 4y ago

They all have problems with spam. Outlook, Google, Fastmail. I wouldn't say that's a reason to shut the service down.

blinkingled 4y ago
The difference is I hardly ever see spam on Gmail and Fastmail. Whereas outlook it's 10 delivered every 4hours that the Android app notifies me for! And stuff that should be easily identifiable as spam too.

vezycash 4y ago

The SWEEP feature of outlook is the ultimate email spam feature. If you've never used it, try it and your spam problem will be poof in a few clicks. It's a pity sweep is desktop web only. Their email alias feature is cool, allows you to change your login ID retroactively. I wish they'd take it a step further by allowing me to set a login-only ID e.g. the login ID cannot be used to send nor receive emails (security by obscurity).