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Host that code. Serve that code to other users. It does not grant the right to create derivative works of that code outside the purview of the code's license. T
by eropple 4y ago
Host that code. Serve that code to other users. It does not grant the right to create derivative works of that code outside the purview of the code's license. That would be a non-starter in practice; see every repository with GPL code not written by the repository creator.
Whether the results of these programs is somehow Not A Derivative Work is the question at hand here, not "sharing". I think (and I hope) that the answer to that question won't go the way the AI folks want it to go; the amount of circumlocution needed to excuse that the not actually thinking and perceiving program is deriving data changes from its copyright-protected inputs is a tell that the folks pushing it know it's silly.
- naikrovek 4y agocopilot isn't creating derivative works: copilot users are. the human at the keyboard is responsible for what goes into the source code being written. to aid copilot users here, they are creating tools to give users more info about the code they are seeing: https://github.blog/2022-11-01-preview-referencing-public-code-in-github-copilot/ https://github.blog/2022-11-01-preview-referencing-public-co...
- devmor 4y agoYour argument is essentially the same as the argument that the pirate bay didn't infringe copyright, it only facilitated infringement. And we all saw how well that went legally.
- Filligree 4y agoPirate Bay couldn't be used to do anything but infringe copyright, practically. That's not true for Copilot.
- devmor 4y agoNonsense. It tracked millions of legitimate torrents.
- account42 4y agoActually pirate bay was even less of an infringement as they did not dsitribute the copygihted content or derivatives themselves, only indexed where it could be found. With Copilot all the content you're getting goes trough Microsoft.
- AnnasVirtual 4y agothat is not how similar at all that is not how machine learning works OMG
- devmor 4y agoMachine learning is not important to this line of argument. We are talking about the legal responsibility of a tool.
- 8note 4y agoThe page surrounding the code in the GitHub UI is a derivative work, isn't it? It's an html file containing both the licensed code and some other html
- BenjiWiebe 4y agoIt still has attribution.