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Really, it's "<animal> Found to be Smarter Than We Think" - humans are quite arrogant thinking we're the only smart animals.

beebeepka 4y ago
I find titles such as this one offensive. Who is "we"? Because everyone who isn't a complete idiot knows that animals are not stupid. Crows, cats, dogs, pigs, snakes, insects - clearly not stupid. Arrogance seems like the major component but it binds really well with ignorance. As a kid, it never occurred to me that certain creatures appear dumb because they have trouble navigating our world. Well, no shit. Almost nothing is built to help anyone but us. Animals do not have the same vision or hearing as us. Doesn't make them stupid.
- selcuka 4y ago
  > everyone who isn't a complete idiot knows that animals are not stupid To be fair the article doesn't claim anything like that. We already knew that crows are smart, but it turns out they are smarter than we thought.
- pencilguin 4y ago
  Yet, many literate people throughout history have insisted exactly what you say none believe, and wrote it down where it would be re-transcribed through centuries.
  - beebeepka 4y ago
    Literate does not equal smart or not arrogant.
iambateman 4y ago
Is it arrogant? Yesterday, my two year old son said “is the tow truck that is coming to get your car a bed truck or a hook truck?” Other animals are definitely smart in some ways…and probably in ways we don’t understand…but it’s not an overstatement or arrogant to say that we are in a class of our own.
- bee_rider 4y ago
  Any time animal intelligence comes up, I'm reminded of this very real and informative documentary. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-fC9uNyhWo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-fC9uNyhWo But still, crows are pretty cool.
- pencilguin 4y ago
  We have particular skills we like to think are most important. We entirely lack other skills, to the point we don't even know about them. Whales, elephants, and octopus probably find us singularly unimpressive at mental achievements they do easily.

beebeepka 4y ago

I find titles such as this one offensive. Who is "we"? Because everyone who isn't a complete idiot knows that animals are not stupid. Crows, cats, dogs, pigs, snakes, insects - clearly not stupid. Arrogance seems like the major component but it binds really well with ignorance. As a kid, it never occurred to me that certain creatures appear dumb because they have trouble navigating our world. Well, no shit. Almost nothing is built to help anyone but us. Animals do not have the same vision or hearing as us. Doesn't make them stupid.

selcuka 4y ago
> everyone who isn't a complete idiot knows that animals are not stupid To be fair the article doesn't claim anything like that. We already knew that crows are smart, but it turns out they are smarter than we thought.
pencilguin 4y ago
Yet, many literate people throughout history have insisted exactly what you say none believe, and wrote it down where it would be re-transcribed through centuries.
- beebeepka 4y ago
  Literate does not equal smart or not arrogant.

iambateman 4y ago

Is it arrogant? Yesterday, my two year old son said “is the tow truck that is coming to get your car a bed truck or a hook truck?” Other animals are definitely smart in some ways…and probably in ways we don’t understand…but it’s not an overstatement or arrogant to say that we are in a class of our own.

bee_rider 4y ago
Any time animal intelligence comes up, I'm reminded of this very real and informative documentary. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-fC9uNyhWo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-fC9uNyhWo But still, crows are pretty cool.
pencilguin 4y ago
We have particular skills we like to think are most important. We entirely lack other skills, to the point we don't even know about them. Whales, elephants, and octopus probably find us singularly unimpressive at mental achievements they do easily.