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> But it doesn't make sense to criticize the plaintiff looking for a profit… I don’t know man, I can simultaneously see the systemic issue that needs to be sol

by lovich 4y ago

> But it doesn't make sense to criticize the plaintiff looking for a profit… I don’t know man, I can simultaneously see the systemic issue that needs to be solved and also critique someone for subcoming to base needs like greed when they don’t have the need.

CobrastanJorji 4y ago
What they're doing is a service, though. Say that $10 million worth of damage against others has been done. If the law firm does not act, the villainous curs who caused that damage get to keep their money and are incentivized to do it again. If the law firm does act and prevails, then the villains lose their ill-gotten gains (in favor of the law firm and, sometimes, to an extent, the injured parties). That's preferable. Not ideal, but certainly better than nothing.
- lovich 4y ago
  That implies it’s a service I want, which I have not decided on in this situation. Either way I was more arguing with the other posters claim that it “didn’t make sense” to critique this move, which I think is factually incorrect since I can come up with a few plausible situations where it does make sense
  - ImPostingOnHN 4y ago
    it doesn't imply it's a service you want, but rather, if you do want it, you can opt-in to the service by joining the lawsuit when the time comes if you feel the class doesn't represent you, you can just not opt-in
    - lovich 4y ago
      I perhaps wasn’t clear, I meant that I am not sure I want copilot constrained in this way. If I solidify that belief into definitely not wanting copilot constrained, then this would be a negative suit for me
      - ImPostingOnHN 4y ago
        understood, and there are others who do want it constrained this way, and their right to not be a victim of copyright infringement outweighs a desire to reap the gains of such infringement
    - CobrastanJorji 4y ago
      Sadly, you've got it backwards. Class actions are opt-out. You're part of it unless you know about the settlement and contact them to let them know you're opting out of it.
ssteeper 4y ago
Is a startup founder looking for a big payout succumbing to greed? These people are just following incentives.
- lovich 4y ago
  People following financial incentives are being greedy, this is how we got “greed is good” as a phrase
MikePlacid 4y ago
But the need is obviously there. Everyone who produces the following code in a non-university environment - for a fee! - needs to be punished quickly and severely: Based on the given prompt, [Codex] produced the following response: function isEven(n) { if (n == 0) return true; else if (n == 1) return false; else if (n < 0) return isEven(‐n); else return isEven(n ‐ 2); } console.log(isEven(50)); // → true console.log(isEven(75)); // → false console.log(isEven(‐1)); // → ??**

by lovich 4y ago

CobrastanJorji 4y ago

What they're doing is a service, though. Say that $10 million worth of damage against others has been done. If the law firm does not act, the villainous curs who caused that damage get to keep their money and are incentivized to do it again. If the law firm does act and prevails, then the villains lose their ill-gotten gains (in favor of the law firm and, sometimes, to an extent, the injured parties). That's preferable. Not ideal, but certainly better than nothing.

lovich 4y ago
That implies it’s a service I want, which I have not decided on in this situation. Either way I was more arguing with the other posters claim that it “didn’t make sense” to critique this move, which I think is factually incorrect since I can come up with a few plausible situations where it does make sense
- ImPostingOnHN 4y ago
  it doesn't imply it's a service you want, but rather, if you do want it, you can opt-in to the service by joining the lawsuit when the time comes if you feel the class doesn't represent you, you can just not opt-in
  - lovich 4y ago
    I perhaps wasn’t clear, I meant that I am not sure I want copilot constrained in this way. If I solidify that belief into definitely not wanting copilot constrained, then this would be a negative suit for me
    - ImPostingOnHN 4y ago
      understood, and there are others who do want it constrained this way, and their right to not be a victim of copyright infringement outweighs a desire to reap the gains of such infringement
  - CobrastanJorji 4y ago
    Sadly, you've got it backwards. Class actions are opt-out. You're part of it unless you know about the settlement and contact them to let them know you're opting out of it.

ssteeper 4y ago

Is a startup founder looking for a big payout succumbing to greed? These people are just following incentives.

lovich 4y ago
People following financial incentives are being greedy, this is how we got “greed is good” as a phrase

MikePlacid 4y ago

But the need is obviously there. Everyone who produces the following code in a non-university environment - for a fee! - needs to be punished quickly and severely: Based on the given prompt, [Codex] produced the following response: function isEven(n) { if (n == 0) return true; else if (n == 1) return false; else if (n < 0) return isEven(‐n); else return isEven(n ‐ 2); } console.log(isEven(50)); // → true console.log(isEven(75)); // → false console.log(isEven(‐1)); // → ??**