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Spamming is an attempt to promote something. Destroying the forum is a side effect. It's fair to describe indifference to negative effects of one's behavior as

by Zak 4y ago

Spamming is an attempt to promote something. Destroying the forum is a side effect. It's fair to describe indifference to negative effects of one's behavior as malicious, and it is, indeed almost never possible to transform a spammer into a productive member of a community.

bombcar 4y ago
Yeah, most people take the promotion spamming as the main one, but you can also refer to some forms of shitposting as spamming (join any twitch chat and watch whatever the current spam emoji is flood by) - but the second is more almost a form of cheering perhaps. If you wanted to divide it further I guess you could discuss "in-group spamming" and "out-group spamming" where almost all of the promotional stuff falls in the second but there are still some in the first group.
- Zak 4y ago
  I guess I'd describe repeatedly posting the same emoji to a chat as flooding rather than spamming. Even then, your mention of cheering further divides it into two categories of behavior: 1. Cheering. That's as good a description as any. This is intended to express excitement or approval and rally the in-group. It temporarily makes the chat useless for anything else, but that isn't its purpose. 2. Flooding. This is an intentional denial of service attack intended to make the chat useless for as long as possible, or until some demand made by the attacker is met.
  - bombcar 4y ago
    Yeah - one thing I've noticed with some forums is that the addition of the "like/dislike" buttons (some have even more reactions available) greatly INCREASES the signal to noise ratio (I mean makes the forum have more signal, maybe I said it backwards) because the "me too" posts and the "fuck off" posts are reduced, you can just hit the button instead. Some streaming platforms have a button you can hit that makes party emoji or heart emoji or whatever appear in a stream from the lower right, that's a similar thing which helps with cheering so you can then combat flooding.
    - Zak 4y ago
      I've observed the same with Matrix and Discord. It reduces noise to the point that while "fuck off" would call for moderation in a lot of contexts, reacting with the middle finger emoji usually doesn't even though it has the same meaning.

by Zak 4y ago

bombcar 4y ago

Yeah, most people take the promotion spamming as the main one, but you can also refer to some forms of shitposting as spamming (join any twitch chat and watch whatever the current spam emoji is flood by) - but the second is more almost a form of cheering perhaps. If you wanted to divide it further I guess you could discuss "in-group spamming" and "out-group spamming" where almost all of the promotional stuff falls in the second but there are still some in the first group.

Zak 4y ago
I guess I'd describe repeatedly posting the same emoji to a chat as flooding rather than spamming. Even then, your mention of cheering further divides it into two categories of behavior: 1. Cheering. That's as good a description as any. This is intended to express excitement or approval and rally the in-group. It temporarily makes the chat useless for anything else, but that isn't its purpose. 2. Flooding. This is an intentional denial of service attack intended to make the chat useless for as long as possible, or until some demand made by the attacker is met.
- bombcar 4y ago
  Yeah - one thing I've noticed with some forums is that the addition of the "like/dislike" buttons (some have even more reactions available) greatly INCREASES the signal to noise ratio (I mean makes the forum have more signal, maybe I said it backwards) because the "me too" posts and the "fuck off" posts are reduced, you can just hit the button instead. Some streaming platforms have a button you can hit that makes party emoji or heart emoji or whatever appear in a stream from the lower right, that's a similar thing which helps with cheering so you can then combat flooding.
  - Zak 4y ago
    I've observed the same with Matrix and Discord. It reduces noise to the point that while "fuck off" would call for moderation in a lot of contexts, reacting with the middle finger emoji usually doesn't even though it has the same meaning.