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So is this the latest scheme to embezzle the money? I am ashamed I used to donate to you useless people. I am ashamed I ever promoted firefox. > To fuel an e

So is this the latest scheme to embezzle the money? I am ashamed I used to donate to you useless people. I am ashamed I ever promoted firefox. > To fuel an ecosystem of products and technology that respect users Bring back the XUL extensions!

prepend 4y ago
Something similar. I was a pretty regular doner to Mozilla for many years. I stopped because Mozilla spends money on lots of stuff I don’t care about and not on the browser. I hope this works out for them. But I’m not sure the elevator pitch for Mozilla as a charity. Why do people donate to them?
- yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
  To play devil's advocate: If Mozilla were purely focused on doing good for the internet, and had a funding problem that threatened their ability to do that, it's possible that carefully investing money in places that do some good and gives them returns is a good way to try and solve both problems at once. Not that I have any faith in them. But this could be a good thing.
  - prepend 4y ago
    It definitely could be a good thing. But it’s like if Doctors Without Borders/MSF started a soup kitchen in DC. Soup kitchens are good things, but if I donate to MSF I want my money to go towards a specific cause, not domestic soup kitchens. There are already charity index funds for people who want to donate.
- leeroyjenkins11 4y ago
  They gave grants to change master/slave terminology in documentation. After that, I can't donate and assume the won't wizz away my money on some stupid endeavor.
  - pyuser583 4y ago
    I remember when BLM was becoming a thing. I was working with a rapidly scaling concurrent system. We had already gone through every variation of “master” and “slave” and had code using it to describe the various relationships. “Slave” was a worker whose behavior was exclusively and directly defined by the “master”, “minions” had more autonomy, etc. Eventually the terminology expanded and lost all sense and reason. Just our own in-house jargon. If we could do it over we would have chosen something different, but we were fighting for solvency at that point. COVID really messed stuff up.
notriddle 4y ago
Bringing back XUL extensions won't rescue Firefox, because removing XUL extensions is not what caused Firefox to lose marketshare in the first place. https://cdn.fosstodon.org/media_attachments/files/108/556/560/715/311/519/original/1d624e684edbf8b5.png https://cdn.fosstodon.org/media_attachments/files/108/556/56... Source for the "XUL Deprecated in August 2015" date: https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2015/08/21/the-future-of-developing-firefox-add-ons/ https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2015/08/21/the-future-of-dev... Source for the browser stats over time: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:BrowserUsageShare.png https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:BrowserUsageShare.pn...
- Am4TIfIsER0ppos 4y ago
  So what? XUL was a "technology that respect users" but was replaced because firefox needed to copy chrome.
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prepend 4y ago

Something similar. I was a pretty regular doner to Mozilla for many years. I stopped because Mozilla spends money on lots of stuff I don’t care about and not on the browser. I hope this works out for them. But I’m not sure the elevator pitch for Mozilla as a charity. Why do people donate to them?

yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
To play devil's advocate: If Mozilla were purely focused on doing good for the internet, and had a funding problem that threatened their ability to do that, it's possible that carefully investing money in places that do some good and gives them returns is a good way to try and solve both problems at once. Not that I have any faith in them. But this could be a good thing.
- prepend 4y ago
  It definitely could be a good thing. But it’s like if Doctors Without Borders/MSF started a soup kitchen in DC. Soup kitchens are good things, but if I donate to MSF I want my money to go towards a specific cause, not domestic soup kitchens. There are already charity index funds for people who want to donate.
leeroyjenkins11 4y ago
They gave grants to change master/slave terminology in documentation. After that, I can't donate and assume the won't wizz away my money on some stupid endeavor.
- pyuser583 4y ago
  I remember when BLM was becoming a thing. I was working with a rapidly scaling concurrent system. We had already gone through every variation of “master” and “slave” and had code using it to describe the various relationships. “Slave” was a worker whose behavior was exclusively and directly defined by the “master”, “minions” had more autonomy, etc. Eventually the terminology expanded and lost all sense and reason. Just our own in-house jargon. If we could do it over we would have chosen something different, but we were fighting for solvency at that point. COVID really messed stuff up.

notriddle 4y ago

Bringing back XUL extensions won't rescue Firefox, because removing XUL extensions is not what caused Firefox to lose marketshare in the first place. https://cdn.fosstodon.org/media_attachments/files/108/556/560/715/311/519/original/1d624e684edbf8b5.png https://cdn.fosstodon.org/media_attachments/files/108/556/56... Source for the "XUL Deprecated in August 2015" date: https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2015/08/21/the-future-of-developing-firefox-add-ons/ https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2015/08/21/the-future-of-dev... Source for the browser stats over time: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:BrowserUsageShare.png https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:BrowserUsageShare.pn...

Am4TIfIsER0ppos 4y ago
So what? XUL was a "technology that respect users" but was replaced because firefox needed to copy chrome.

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