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> get 70% or more correct when guessing who will be laid off. What happens when it's the managers themselves who are useless, overpaid, and can't evaluate the

> get 70% or more correct when guessing who will be laid off. What happens when it's the managers themselves who are useless, overpaid, and can't evaluate the team for actual efficacy?

BoorishBears 4y ago
One comment in the Stripe layoff thread was someone who's manager didn't get to put any input into the process. Honestly its funny reading threads like this with people beating their chest about useless coworkers. Instead of thinking of useless coworkers and colleagues, think about what percent of the entire industry that's working on things with no hard output, no interest in profitability, banking on free money that's drying up... If you're working somewhere with so many incompetent colleagues you think 13% layoffs is not trimming anyone useful, odds are your entire unit is in trouble.
- bombcar 4y ago
  Yeah, I should have clarified - useless doesn't necessarily mean the employee sucks at the job they're doing; it could also mean they're an expert at doing a useless job, even if the skillset could be utilized quite valuably. I feel there's a lot of this in crypto, where you have absolutely amazing developers doing amazing code for no point.
  - hef19898 4y ago
    I consider myself to be rather decent at what I do. I also know that, all things considered, I am mostly useless as an employee right know. Wjy? Because in reality my skill set is simply noy needed at the moment, nor will it be for quite some time to come. Things changed since I was hired, lucky for me current management doesn't have the stomach to announce a x % layoff, even if they should IMHO. Not that I complain so, for now.
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bombcar 4y ago
That's when you start seeing teams get axed, though you will often have a "reorg" instead, where managers are shuffled around and then a layoff event where the ones they don't want are let go. Unfortunately the useless and overpaid managers are often the best at brown nosing.

> get 70% or more correct when guessing who will be laid off. What happens when it's the managers themselves who are useless, overpaid, and can't evaluate the team for actual efficacy?

BoorishBears 4y ago

One comment in the Stripe layoff thread was someone who's manager didn't get to put any input into the process. Honestly its funny reading threads like this with people beating their chest about useless coworkers. Instead of thinking of useless coworkers and colleagues, think about what percent of the entire industry that's working on things with no hard output, no interest in profitability, banking on free money that's drying up... If you're working somewhere with so many incompetent colleagues you think 13% layoffs is not trimming anyone useful, odds are your entire unit is in trouble.

bombcar 4y ago
Yeah, I should have clarified - useless doesn't necessarily mean the employee sucks at the job they're doing; it could also mean they're an expert at doing a useless job, even if the skillset could be utilized quite valuably. I feel there's a lot of this in crypto, where you have absolutely amazing developers doing amazing code for no point.
- hef19898 4y ago
  I consider myself to be rather decent at what I do. I also know that, all things considered, I am mostly useless as an employee right know. Wjy? Because in reality my skill set is simply noy needed at the moment, nor will it be for quite some time to come. Things changed since I was hired, lucky for me current management doesn't have the stomach to announce a x % layoff, even if they should IMHO. Not that I complain so, for now.
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bombcar 4y ago

That's when you start seeing teams get axed, though you will often have a "reorg" instead, where managers are shuffled around and then a layoff event where the ones they don't want are let go. Unfortunately the useless and overpaid managers are often the best at brown nosing.