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Haskell is a beautiful, elegant language. And the tooling is a trainwreck that keeps me from using it.

• whateveracct 4y ago
  Different strokes. I literally use ghci + plain text editor and are in no way tooling bound no matter the project scale. I'd say 25% of my Haskelling happens at a computer though.
  • nequo 4y ago
    > I'd say 25% of my Haskelling happens at a computer though. Where do you do the rest of your Haskelling?
    • whateveracct 4y ago
      Doing chores, playing music, playing video games, laying about, walking. I also tend to browse random Haddocks and source code on my phone the same way I browse other websites. It's mostly a subconscious thing. I can't tell you how many times I've had a Haskell problem to solve (highly-abstract and systems programming alike) and I take a couple days off the keyboard and come back and write code that'll last years. Of course, there's still a time and place to do the whole tight feedback coding loop thing. But it isn't how most of my Haskell comes to be.
      • belmont_sup 4y ago
        I didn’t understand where you were going the first sentence but then paragraphs 2 and onwards were fun. Are you usually thinking in terms of type abstractions and enforcing invariants through types?
        • whateveracct 4y ago
          Yeah, I'm a very type-driven dev. So sometimes I'll get stuck with my types and not know a way forward. Usually the answer pops in my head out of nowhere. Reminds me of when Nietzsche said ideas were out in the world, waiting to be bumped into on a walk. Sometimes it's more that I have a tedious problem and think surely there's a better formulation. That also is a good thing to grind in the subconscious. There are still some problems for some project I haven't solved too! It'll come.
• tuukkah 4y ago
  > And the tooling is a trainwreck that keeps me from using it. What's the worst part of Haskell tooling in your opinion?