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To any app dev. If your app is only available via snap I will not be using it. Also certbot, shame on you for removing the Debian repository in favor of snap.

pooper 4y ago
> Also certbot, shame on you for removing the Debian repository in favor of snap. Yes, this deserves shaming. > https://certbot.eff.org/instructions https://certbot.eff.org/instructions > The Certbot snap supports the x86_64, ARMv7, and ARMv8 architectures. While we strongly recommend that most users install Certbot through the snap, you can find alternate installation instructions here. Shame on you, certbot and EFF. Of all people, I expected better from you. For my Fedora people, looks like we can directly install with `dnf`. Debian aptitude people should prefer the same. Available Packages Name : certbot Version : 1.30.0 Release : 1.fc36 Architecture : noarch Size : 44 k Source : certbot-1.30.0-1.fc36.src.rpm Repository : updates Summary : A free, automated certificate authority client URL : https://pypi.python.org/pypi/certbot License : Apache-2.0 Description : certbot is a free, automated certificate authority that aims : to lower the barriers to entry for encrypting all HTTP traffic on the internet.
- mikepurvis 4y ago
  Debian has it too: https://packages.debian.org/sid/certbot https://packages.debian.org/sid/certbot And even Ubuntu: https://packages.ubuntu.com/kinetic/certbot https://packages.ubuntu.com/kinetic/certbot Though I guess there's a risk that eventually the Ubuntu package becomes a facade package like Chrome is, that has no content but uses a postinstall script to grab you the snap instead.
  - jaapz 4y ago
    versions in debian and ubuntu repo's have a tendency to lag behind, current version seems to be 1.30.x while in debian and ubuntu repos it's on 1.29.x
    - dundarious 4y ago
      bullseye/stable is on 1.12.0
- goodpoint 4y ago
  certbot won't be missed. The code quality is pretty poor. https://github.com/certbot/certbot/issues https://github.com/certbot/certbot/issues 5000 bugs and it most of it can be replaced by much smaller tools
  - _piif 4y ago
    Github issue != bug
jacob019 4y ago
I understand the appeal as the developer, Linux package management is heavily fragmented. The snap is build once deploy everywhere. But there are a lot of drawbacks for the user. I don't want my applications to be huge bundles that use twice the ram and have an alternate update system. As a primarily Debian user, I would much rather have a deb repo. If they insist on bundling it like this, flatpak would be a better choice than snap.
- fluidcruft 4y ago
  It is officially distributed to linux as debs (see https://signal.org/download/ https://signal.org/download/). The snap identifies itself as an unofficial snap package of signal-desktop so my assumption is this is third-party volunteers repackaging it for snap users (and possibly non-deb systems).
fanatic2pope 4y ago
On the bright side, their move to snap finally provided me with the impetus to switch to acme.sh (https://github.com/acmesh-official/acme.sh https://github.com/acmesh-official/acme.sh) and it's been a much nicer experience.
runlevel1 4y ago
I was wondering why they'd stop shipping a deb package for certbot. This has some info: https://github.com/certbot/certbot/issues/6770#issuecomment-603574355 https://github.com/certbot/certbot/issues/6770#issuecomment-...

pooper 4y ago

> Also certbot, shame on you for removing the Debian repository in favor of snap. Yes, this deserves shaming. > https://certbot.eff.org/instructions https://certbot.eff.org/instructions > The Certbot snap supports the x86_64, ARMv7, and ARMv8 architectures. While we strongly recommend that most users install Certbot through the snap, you can find alternate installation instructions here. Shame on you, certbot and EFF. Of all people, I expected better from you. For my Fedora people, looks like we can directly install with `dnf`. Debian aptitude people should prefer the same. Available Packages Name : certbot Version : 1.30.0 Release : 1.fc36 Architecture : noarch Size : 44 k Source : certbot-1.30.0-1.fc36.src.rpm Repository : updates Summary : A free, automated certificate authority client URL : https://pypi.python.org/pypi/certbot License : Apache-2.0 Description : certbot is a free, automated certificate authority that aims : to lower the barriers to entry for encrypting all HTTP traffic on the internet.

mikepurvis 4y ago
Debian has it too: https://packages.debian.org/sid/certbot https://packages.debian.org/sid/certbot And even Ubuntu: https://packages.ubuntu.com/kinetic/certbot https://packages.ubuntu.com/kinetic/certbot Though I guess there's a risk that eventually the Ubuntu package becomes a facade package like Chrome is, that has no content but uses a postinstall script to grab you the snap instead.
- jaapz 4y ago
  versions in debian and ubuntu repo's have a tendency to lag behind, current version seems to be 1.30.x while in debian and ubuntu repos it's on 1.29.x
  - dundarious 4y ago
    bullseye/stable is on 1.12.0
goodpoint 4y ago
certbot won't be missed. The code quality is pretty poor. https://github.com/certbot/certbot/issues https://github.com/certbot/certbot/issues 5000 bugs and it most of it can be replaced by much smaller tools
- _piif 4y ago
  Github issue != bug

jacob019 4y ago

I understand the appeal as the developer, Linux package management is heavily fragmented. The snap is build once deploy everywhere. But there are a lot of drawbacks for the user. I don't want my applications to be huge bundles that use twice the ram and have an alternate update system. As a primarily Debian user, I would much rather have a deb repo. If they insist on bundling it like this, flatpak would be a better choice than snap.

fluidcruft 4y ago
It is officially distributed to linux as debs (see https://signal.org/download/ https://signal.org/download/). The snap identifies itself as an unofficial snap package of signal-desktop so my assumption is this is third-party volunteers repackaging it for snap users (and possibly non-deb systems).

fanatic2pope 4y ago

On the bright side, their move to snap finally provided me with the impetus to switch to acme.sh (https://github.com/acmesh-official/acme.sh https://github.com/acmesh-official/acme.sh) and it's been a much nicer experience.

runlevel1 4y ago

I was wondering why they'd stop shipping a deb package for certbot. This has some info: https://github.com/certbot/certbot/issues/6770#issuecomment-603574355 https://github.com/certbot/certbot/issues/6770#issuecomment-...