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This obvious age discrimination against non-teenagers is preposterous! Where are the lawers when you need them? Just kidding, this is an awesome project! I wis

by kleiba 4y ago

This obvious age discrimination against non-teenagers is preposterous! Where are the lawers when you need them? Just kidding, this is an awesome project! I wish I would have been that creative and competent in my teenage years... or even now, for that matter. Respect!

apexedison 4y ago
Haha thanks. Hack Club certainly has adults involved (like myself) but we structure projects so teens can be core contributors (the rest of the core engineering staff on Sprig are all less than 20 years old and I'd say 95% of the games in the library are from teenagers). As for Sprig itself the only part that is limited to teens is that we give the console away for free to teenagers who submit games to the gallery. Otherwise anyone can make games and submit them.
- invalidusernam3 4y ago
  Would be nice if you sold them to us old people at a 2x cost so we can get one and pay for one for a teen
  - rytor718 4y ago
    I second this but mostly because I'm an unrepentant nerd who REALLY wants one of these to show off at my tech workshops for kids :D
    - incanus77 4y ago
      Yeah, being able to access even one to give hands-on could be pretty valuable.
      - hathawsh 4y ago
        It appears the project hasn't optimized for production (yet?). For now, I can't help but think it may be possible to cobble together a Sprig using inexpensive Pi Pico HATs and 3D printing. Here's the schematic: https://github.com/hackclub/sprig/blob/main/docs/GROWING_A_SPRIG.md https://github.com/hackclub/sprig/blob/main/docs/GROWING_A_S...
        incanus77 4y ago
        Yeah, I'm sure it could. But even being able to buy a fabbed board (it's all through-hole components) would move things along. And I find the non-optimization pretty endearing, since it enhances the approachability and ability to understand the whole system.
  - dopidopHN 4y ago
    Yeah that would solve a kinda chicken and egg issue.
cassianoleal 4y ago
> preprosperous You mean you expect it to succeed soon? :D
- kleiba 4y ago
  Haha, thanks! ;-) Fixed.
trashfishes 4y ago
Ha! I’m also part of the Sprig team. This project has been created by many Hack Clubbers, and not only in the development of the engine, editors, firmware and hardware. Hack Club teens handled all logistics/supply. The backings were made by a HCer that taught herself laser cutting. PRs for games are being reviewed and commented upon by 4 teenagers. All front end dev & copy was done by a HCer. The 3d model on the front page was another's first time in Blender. Our youngest Sprig game dev right now is an 11 year old (https://github.com/hackclub/sprig/pull/443 https://github.com/hackclub/sprig/pull/443). We have a water sim built by a 13yr old (https://github.com/hackclub/sprig/pull/402 https://github.com/hackclub/sprig/pull/402). A raycast experiment by a 15yr old (https://github.com/hackclub/sprig/pull/153 https://github.com/hackclub/sprig/pull/153). We have so many fun games built already: https://sprig.hackclub.com/gallery https://sprig.hackclub.com/gallery. Hack Clubbers are now running Sprig workshops in their clubs and hackathons - and publishing them for others to use. Others are hosting 'Sprig Jams' to work on games together. Can't wait to see what more comes of this all.
- aliqot 4y ago
  What happends to the teenagers who turn 20? Emeritus or what?
  - awestroke 4y ago
    They are shunned, their name blacklisted, any record of their contributions erased
  - trashfishes 4y ago
    Sort of, yes! This is great question, and ties into our values and ethos. I'll try to keep it short (and note this is just my perspective as one employee). We fully expect (and support!) our teenagers 'graduating' from Hack Club. On one hand, this presents a challenge when our most committed and experienced people age out every year. But on the other hand, there's a fresh group that arrive with new perspectives and insights, and really make the space their own. Our hope is to honor our wonderful alumni too, and the contributions they have made. Many stay on in various ways to continue to support the community. The cool thing about initiatives like Sprig is that while the current technical contributions will exist 'forever', it too can be enjoyed and iterated on by new young people in ways we don't know yet.

by kleiba 4y ago

apexedison 4y ago

Haha thanks. Hack Club certainly has adults involved (like myself) but we structure projects so teens can be core contributors (the rest of the core engineering staff on Sprig are all less than 20 years old and I'd say 95% of the games in the library are from teenagers). As for Sprig itself the only part that is limited to teens is that we give the console away for free to teenagers who submit games to the gallery. Otherwise anyone can make games and submit them.

invalidusernam3 4y ago
Would be nice if you sold them to us old people at a 2x cost so we can get one and pay for one for a teen
- rytor718 4y ago
  I second this but mostly because I'm an unrepentant nerd who REALLY wants one of these to show off at my tech workshops for kids :D
  - incanus77 4y ago
    Yeah, being able to access even one to give hands-on could be pretty valuable.
    - hathawsh 4y ago
      It appears the project hasn't optimized for production (yet?). For now, I can't help but think it may be possible to cobble together a Sprig using inexpensive Pi Pico HATs and 3D printing. Here's the schematic: https://github.com/hackclub/sprig/blob/main/docs/GROWING_A_SPRIG.md https://github.com/hackclub/sprig/blob/main/docs/GROWING_A_S...
      - incanus77 4y ago
        Yeah, I'm sure it could. But even being able to buy a fabbed board (it's all through-hole components) would move things along. And I find the non-optimization pretty endearing, since it enhances the approachability and ability to understand the whole system.
- dopidopHN 4y ago
  Yeah that would solve a kinda chicken and egg issue.

cassianoleal 4y ago

> preprosperous You mean you expect it to succeed soon? :D

kleiba 4y ago
Haha, thanks! ;-) Fixed.

trashfishes 4y ago

Ha! I’m also part of the Sprig team. This project has been created by many Hack Clubbers, and not only in the development of the engine, editors, firmware and hardware. Hack Club teens handled all logistics/supply. The backings were made by a HCer that taught herself laser cutting. PRs for games are being reviewed and commented upon by 4 teenagers. All front end dev & copy was done by a HCer. The 3d model on the front page was another's first time in Blender. Our youngest Sprig game dev right now is an 11 year old (https://github.com/hackclub/sprig/pull/443 https://github.com/hackclub/sprig/pull/443). We have a water sim built by a 13yr old (https://github.com/hackclub/sprig/pull/402 https://github.com/hackclub/sprig/pull/402). A raycast experiment by a 15yr old (https://github.com/hackclub/sprig/pull/153 https://github.com/hackclub/sprig/pull/153). We have so many fun games built already: https://sprig.hackclub.com/gallery https://sprig.hackclub.com/gallery. Hack Clubbers are now running Sprig workshops in their clubs and hackathons - and publishing them for others to use. Others are hosting 'Sprig Jams' to work on games together. Can't wait to see what more comes of this all.

aliqot 4y ago
What happends to the teenagers who turn 20? Emeritus or what?
- awestroke 4y ago
  They are shunned, their name blacklisted, any record of their contributions erased
- trashfishes 4y ago
  Sort of, yes! This is great question, and ties into our values and ethos. I'll try to keep it short (and note this is just my perspective as one employee). We fully expect (and support!) our teenagers 'graduating' from Hack Club. On one hand, this presents a challenge when our most committed and experienced people age out every year. But on the other hand, there's a fresh group that arrive with new perspectives and insights, and really make the space their own. Our hope is to honor our wonderful alumni too, and the contributions they have made. Many stay on in various ways to continue to support the community. The cool thing about initiatives like Sprig is that while the current technical contributions will exist 'forever', it too can be enjoyed and iterated on by new young people in ways we don't know yet.