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From what I can see in a quick search (and from this presentation), Netflix only uses FreeBSD for serving video and they run these servers themselves in their o

From what I can see in a quick search (and from this presentation), Netflix only uses FreeBSD for serving video and they run these servers themselves in their own datacenters I guess. In contrast their apps on EC2 use Linux [0]. Sounds like the time has not yet come when AWS is paying anyone full time to support FreeBSD on EC2. [0] https://twitter.com/brendangregg/status/1412201241472471048 https://twitter.com/brendangregg/status/1412201241472471048

vbezhenar 4y ago
What does it mean to support FreeBSD on EC2? Surely it's just a KVM so you can run whatever you want?
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- sanxiyn 4y ago
  It means, for example, writing a FreeBSD kernel driver for Elastic Network Adapter (ENA). Both Linux kernel driver and FreeBSD kernel driver is available at https://github.com/amzn/amzn-drivers https://github.com/amzn/amzn-drivers
cotillion 4y ago
Netflix works because they move content close to the users. This is done by either having the ISP establish a peering connection directly to Netflix hosted servers or by having the ISPs host "Open Connect Appliances" which cache the most requested content. These appliances are based on FreeBSD. The AWS egress savings from this setup must be immense. https://openconnect.netflix.com/ https://openconnect.netflix.com/
- ilyt 4y ago
  Yup, cloud bandwidth is insanely expensive considering to what you actually pay to get link to your datacenter. And you pay either by 95th percentile (basically "peak usage") or by whole link, not per megabyte sent
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erk__ 4y ago
cperciva whom you link have worked quite a bit on EC2 support for FreeBSD, a lot of it documented on their blog [0] and supported by Patreons at [1]. But yeah it would be nice if there was someone who could work on it full time [0]: https://www.daemonology.net/blog/2022-03-29-FreeBSD-EC2-report.html https://www.daemonology.net/blog/2022-03-29-FreeBSD-EC2-repo... [1]: https://www.patreon.com/cperciva https://www.patreon.com/cperciva
- eatonphil 4y ago
  Yep! In the thread he describes how he is not enough.

vbezhenar 4y ago

What does it mean to support FreeBSD on EC2? Surely it's just a KVM so you can run whatever you want?

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sanxiyn 4y ago
It means, for example, writing a FreeBSD kernel driver for Elastic Network Adapter (ENA). Both Linux kernel driver and FreeBSD kernel driver is available at https://github.com/amzn/amzn-drivers https://github.com/amzn/amzn-drivers

cotillion 4y ago

Netflix works because they move content close to the users. This is done by either having the ISP establish a peering connection directly to Netflix hosted servers or by having the ISPs host "Open Connect Appliances" which cache the most requested content. These appliances are based on FreeBSD. The AWS egress savings from this setup must be immense. https://openconnect.netflix.com/ https://openconnect.netflix.com/

ilyt 4y ago
Yup, cloud bandwidth is insanely expensive considering to what you actually pay to get link to your datacenter. And you pay either by 95th percentile (basically "peak usage") or by whole link, not per megabyte sent

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erk__ 4y ago

cperciva whom you link have worked quite a bit on EC2 support for FreeBSD, a lot of it documented on their blog [0] and supported by Patreons at [1]. But yeah it would be nice if there was someone who could work on it full time [0]: https://www.daemonology.net/blog/2022-03-29-FreeBSD-EC2-report.html https://www.daemonology.net/blog/2022-03-29-FreeBSD-EC2-repo... [1]: https://www.patreon.com/cperciva https://www.patreon.com/cperciva

eatonphil 4y ago
Yep! In the thread he describes how he is not enough.