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I disagree. Comments with a certain tone set the mood for the entire forum generally leading to a poor overall use experience.

Kinrany 4y ago
In tree-style conversations (Twitter, Reddit) they are contained to subtrees of already banned posts.
andrewflnr 4y ago
Is your concern answered by ensuring that the default experience of a forum is moderated, until someone explicitly takes off the covers? Otherwise I can't fathom where you disagree with GP.
beebeepka 4y ago
What does that mean? Comments with certain tone set the mood anyway. That's how it works in general. It's just you'd prefer "certain" moods over others
- goodpoint 4y ago
  > It's just you'd prefer "certain" moods over others Don't trivialize it as some personal preference around moods. It's much more than that. Stuff like death threats, doxxing, child porn, harassment are not just "moods you don't like".
  - beebeepka 4y ago
    Sure. I am simply opposing the use "certain". The way it's written, it could mean literally anything
  - Mountain_Skies 4y ago
    Sounds like things for the legal system to handle.
the8472 4y ago
> the entire forum That is the wrong view on a global communication platform. It's like saying "a certain tone sets the mood for the entire telephone system". These things should be seen more as silos, subcultures or whatever. Unless you expose yourself to the firehose of globally popular content.
- mmastrac 4y ago
  Telephones are 1:1, forums are 1:many.
  - the8472 4y ago
    Then pick a different medium. A single tabloid doesn't tarnish every single news industry. Rude mailing lists don't invalidate private email conversations. Also, conference calls are a thing. Anyway, analogies are imperfect, please look in the direction where I am gesturing, not at my exact words. The point here (and of the entire conversation) is that you shouldn't judge a medium by its worst imaginable actors as long as you're given the right tools that allow you to use that medium undisturbed, effectively putting them into a different silo. Today twitter allows a very crude, imperfect approximation of this by following people that post decent content and setting the homepage to "latest posts" instead of "top tweets". Ideally we'd have better tools than that.
    - otterley 4y ago
      But the thing is, there's no "outrage Twitter" that's distinct from "calm Twitter." There's just Twitter. Since the value of a social network is in its population, the natural inclination will be towards a reduction of networks, not a proliferation of them.
brigandish 4y ago
If you don't see those comments then how could they set a tone?
Slava_Propanei 4y ago

Kinrany 4y ago

In tree-style conversations (Twitter, Reddit) they are contained to subtrees of already banned posts.

andrewflnr 4y ago

Is your concern answered by ensuring that the default experience of a forum is moderated, until someone explicitly takes off the covers? Otherwise I can't fathom where you disagree with GP.

beebeepka 4y ago

What does that mean? Comments with certain tone set the mood anyway. That's how it works in general. It's just you'd prefer "certain" moods over others

goodpoint 4y ago
> It's just you'd prefer "certain" moods over others Don't trivialize it as some personal preference around moods. It's much more than that. Stuff like death threats, doxxing, child porn, harassment are not just "moods you don't like".
- beebeepka 4y ago
  Sure. I am simply opposing the use "certain". The way it's written, it could mean literally anything
- Mountain_Skies 4y ago
  Sounds like things for the legal system to handle.

the8472 4y ago

> the entire forum That is the wrong view on a global communication platform. It's like saying "a certain tone sets the mood for the entire telephone system". These things should be seen more as silos, subcultures or whatever. Unless you expose yourself to the firehose of globally popular content.

mmastrac 4y ago
Telephones are 1:1, forums are 1:many.
- the8472 4y ago
  Then pick a different medium. A single tabloid doesn't tarnish every single news industry. Rude mailing lists don't invalidate private email conversations. Also, conference calls are a thing. Anyway, analogies are imperfect, please look in the direction where I am gesturing, not at my exact words. The point here (and of the entire conversation) is that you shouldn't judge a medium by its worst imaginable actors as long as you're given the right tools that allow you to use that medium undisturbed, effectively putting them into a different silo. Today twitter allows a very crude, imperfect approximation of this by following people that post decent content and setting the homepage to "latest posts" instead of "top tweets". Ideally we'd have better tools than that.
  - otterley 4y ago
    But the thing is, there's no "outrage Twitter" that's distinct from "calm Twitter." There's just Twitter. Since the value of a social network is in its population, the natural inclination will be towards a reduction of networks, not a proliferation of them.

brigandish 4y ago

If you don't see those comments then how could they set a tone?

Slava_Propanei 4y ago