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Every review I've seen has said it has poor user experience. In my 10 minutes holding one, it was janky, clunky, heavy and hot. ("I trust Amazon to fix it!" wa

by jmelloy 15y ago

Every review I've seen has said it has poor user experience. In my 10 minutes holding one, it was janky, clunky, heavy and hot. ("I trust Amazon to fix it!" was the rallying cry of my friend.) The interesting thing isn't that the UI/UX sucks, it's that this article in the New York Times.

kenjackson 15y ago
it was janky, clunky, heavy and hot. Really? I've never felt it get hot. It feels lighter than my iPad2 (although it may be heavier -- but I really don't think so). The UX is almost strictly worse than the iPad2, but at less than 50% the price, its a better deal (given they both have serious deficiencies today -- but $199 for a seriously deficient device feels much better than $499).
- joejohnson 15y ago
  What are some serious deficiencies you've found with your iPad?
  - esrauch 15y ago
    Weight is the killer factor for me. I haven't played with a fire, but the iPad is annoying to hold for any significant period of time without leaning or propping it against something. That said, a Kindle 3 is only 250g and an iPad is 600g which is what the comparison is in my mind. I am not sure where the ~400g Fire lies in that regard.
  - kenjackson 15y ago
    As someone else noted, weight is a huge one. In fact the first iPad I bought I returned because it was too heavy. Later got an iPad2, but weight is still an issue. Web browsing kind of sucks. Like the YouTube experience is crazy buggy. I find the keyboard hard to use for anything, but the smallest notes. Getting content on the device, e.g., movies I've transcoded, is an exercise in pulling out my hair. Tedious and time consuming. And this is just me doing stuff on it that people say I should be able to do well on the device. I don't even include the deficiencies for things everyone knows that it doesn't do well -- so it gets a free pass on it.
- NeilCJames 15y ago
  Mine has gotten hot once, when I had it in an enclosed space while charging it. If the grandparent had a hot one in his hand, it certainly wasn't from what I've experienced in normal use.
aaronf 15y ago
Given the clunky user experience of earlier Kindle models, did people really expect something on par with an iPad? Trusting amazon to fix it is key - it's fine as long as they move forward quickly. Given all the interviews I've read with Bezos bragging about their revolutionary new browser, I'd be most disappointed by slow load times. They over-promised on this feature.
r00fus 15y ago
> I trust Amazon to fix it!" was the rallying cry of my friend. You know, I actually do want one of these 7" devices. At the moment, I'm leaning more towards the Nook Color/Tablet since B&N are more favorable towards hacking, but Amazon needs to actually deliver these fixes before folks should parrot that line.
- jamesgeck0 15y ago
  The Nook Tablet's bootloader is locked down. There's been some work on loading custom kernels after the tablet has booted, but it will likely take several months. The developers on XDA are still working on kernel modules and memory management code right now.

by jmelloy 15y ago

kenjackson 15y ago

it was janky, clunky, heavy and hot. Really? I've never felt it get hot. It feels lighter than my iPad2 (although it may be heavier -- but I really don't think so). The UX is almost strictly worse than the iPad2, but at less than 50% the price, its a better deal (given they both have serious deficiencies today -- but $199 for a seriously deficient device feels much better than $499).

joejohnson 15y ago
What are some serious deficiencies you've found with your iPad?
- esrauch 15y ago
  Weight is the killer factor for me. I haven't played with a fire, but the iPad is annoying to hold for any significant period of time without leaning or propping it against something. That said, a Kindle 3 is only 250g and an iPad is 600g which is what the comparison is in my mind. I am not sure where the ~400g Fire lies in that regard.
- kenjackson 15y ago
  As someone else noted, weight is a huge one. In fact the first iPad I bought I returned because it was too heavy. Later got an iPad2, but weight is still an issue. Web browsing kind of sucks. Like the YouTube experience is crazy buggy. I find the keyboard hard to use for anything, but the smallest notes. Getting content on the device, e.g., movies I've transcoded, is an exercise in pulling out my hair. Tedious and time consuming. And this is just me doing stuff on it that people say I should be able to do well on the device. I don't even include the deficiencies for things everyone knows that it doesn't do well -- so it gets a free pass on it.
NeilCJames 15y ago
Mine has gotten hot once, when I had it in an enclosed space while charging it. If the grandparent had a hot one in his hand, it certainly wasn't from what I've experienced in normal use.

aaronf 15y ago

Given the clunky user experience of earlier Kindle models, did people really expect something on par with an iPad? Trusting amazon to fix it is key - it's fine as long as they move forward quickly. Given all the interviews I've read with Bezos bragging about their revolutionary new browser, I'd be most disappointed by slow load times. They over-promised on this feature.

r00fus 15y ago

> I trust Amazon to fix it!" was the rallying cry of my friend. You know, I actually do want one of these 7" devices. At the moment, I'm leaning more towards the Nook Color/Tablet since B&N are more favorable towards hacking, but Amazon needs to actually deliver these fixes before folks should parrot that line.

jamesgeck0 15y ago
The Nook Tablet's bootloader is locked down. There's been some work on loading custom kernels after the tablet has booted, but it will likely take several months. The developers on XDA are still working on kernel modules and memory management code right now.