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It sounds like everyone is being required to work some pretty crazy hours. Why would even high performing employees want to be burned out when they could easily

It sounds like everyone is being required to work some pretty crazy hours. Why would even high performing employees want to be burned out when they could easily get another job?

nemo44x 4y ago
Sad they’re asking people being paid many hundreds of thousands to put in some time to make real impact. The great engineers are inspired by this leadership. It’s like fresh oxygen. They have purpose.
- UncleOxidant 4y ago
  Hi Elon! Sounds like you're smoking weed again.
- threeseed 4y ago
  Maybe you can educate us all on what Twitter's new purpose is. Because from what I've seen from Jason Calcanis, David Sacks etc they seem to be outsourcing product vision to their followers who have no skin in the game and plenty of hidden agendas. Can't imagine any great engineers finding that inspiring.
- fzeroracer 4y ago
  So you're telling me that if your current job told you to do 12 hour work days 7 days a week, you'd leap right on that because it's inspiring?
  - kcplate 4y ago
    Would and have. My wife is an insurance agent, basically that is her Q4.
    - jakupovic 4y ago
      Lol. Seriously just give up on your original assertion and say you're wrong. If not today, you will realize this eventually.
      - kcplate 4y ago
        You might consider the fact that some folks have a different work ethic and approach to their careers than you do. Also if I haven’t “realized” it in the 35 years that I have been doing this sort of thing…that perhaps there is nothing eventually to realize.
- sn41 4y ago
  Twitter hasn't had real impact? Some would argue that the impact has been negative. I don't even like Twitter. But the impact is one of the greatest of any software platform till date. And I really doubt great engineers are the kind of herdable cattle like you suggest. Most have pride and self-respect. I suspect they will be the first to leave a s(t)inking ship, and get the good jobs in the market while they are still abundant.
- kweingar 4y ago
  > The great engineers are inspired by this leadership. It’s like fresh oxygen. They have purpose. I’m sure the great engineers at Twitter were inspired by the order to print out all of their recent commits on sheets of paper and then promptly shred them before anybody looked at them. I’m sure that the great engineers at Twitter who are parents are salivating at the opportunity to lose almost all of the time spent with their children.
- piva00 4y ago
  How did you end up being a boot-licker for bosses and corporate management? I ask this sincerely, given that you seem to be just another worker as most of us. When and how exactly did you decide that forcing workers, as best paid as they are, to work longer hours is something acceptable, and from the tone of your posts even desirable? How long has been your career? 10 years? 20 years? How often have you found that people work much better when they are pressured with a lingering guillotine over their heads? Have you ever managed someone, or a team? And managed them enough to have to tap into team spirit and morale to keep some semblance of productivity when things crumble around them? What exactly has happened in your life for you to be on the side of corporate-owners? Is is just a lack of liberating education compelling you to become an oppressor coming from the oppressed?
siggen 4y ago
High-performing is not necessarily equivalent to working crazy hours. In fact, working crazy hours, in some circles, is indicative of not being high-performing.
- UncleOxidant 4y ago
  From the original post it sounds like everyone is being required to work evenings and weekends. Doesn't sound like high performers are excepted from that.

It sounds like everyone is being required to work some pretty crazy hours. Why would even high performing employees want to be burned out when they could easily get another job?

nemo44x 4y ago

Sad they’re asking people being paid many hundreds of thousands to put in some time to make real impact. The great engineers are inspired by this leadership. It’s like fresh oxygen. They have purpose.

UncleOxidant 4y ago
Hi Elon! Sounds like you're smoking weed again.
threeseed 4y ago
Maybe you can educate us all on what Twitter's new purpose is. Because from what I've seen from Jason Calcanis, David Sacks etc they seem to be outsourcing product vision to their followers who have no skin in the game and plenty of hidden agendas. Can't imagine any great engineers finding that inspiring.
fzeroracer 4y ago
So you're telling me that if your current job told you to do 12 hour work days 7 days a week, you'd leap right on that because it's inspiring?
- kcplate 4y ago
  Would and have. My wife is an insurance agent, basically that is her Q4.
  - jakupovic 4y ago
    Lol. Seriously just give up on your original assertion and say you're wrong. If not today, you will realize this eventually.
    - kcplate 4y ago
      You might consider the fact that some folks have a different work ethic and approach to their careers than you do. Also if I haven’t “realized” it in the 35 years that I have been doing this sort of thing…that perhaps there is nothing eventually to realize.
sn41 4y ago
Twitter hasn't had real impact? Some would argue that the impact has been negative. I don't even like Twitter. But the impact is one of the greatest of any software platform till date. And I really doubt great engineers are the kind of herdable cattle like you suggest. Most have pride and self-respect. I suspect they will be the first to leave a s(t)inking ship, and get the good jobs in the market while they are still abundant.
kweingar 4y ago
> The great engineers are inspired by this leadership. It’s like fresh oxygen. They have purpose. I’m sure the great engineers at Twitter were inspired by the order to print out all of their recent commits on sheets of paper and then promptly shred them before anybody looked at them. I’m sure that the great engineers at Twitter who are parents are salivating at the opportunity to lose almost all of the time spent with their children.
piva00 4y ago
How did you end up being a boot-licker for bosses and corporate management? I ask this sincerely, given that you seem to be just another worker as most of us. When and how exactly did you decide that forcing workers, as best paid as they are, to work longer hours is something acceptable, and from the tone of your posts even desirable? How long has been your career? 10 years? 20 years? How often have you found that people work much better when they are pressured with a lingering guillotine over their heads? Have you ever managed someone, or a team? And managed them enough to have to tap into team spirit and morale to keep some semblance of productivity when things crumble around them? What exactly has happened in your life for you to be on the side of corporate-owners? Is is just a lack of liberating education compelling you to become an oppressor coming from the oppressed?

siggen 4y ago

High-performing is not necessarily equivalent to working crazy hours. In fact, working crazy hours, in some circles, is indicative of not being high-performing.

UncleOxidant 4y ago
From the original post it sounds like everyone is being required to work evenings and weekends. Doesn't sound like high performers are excepted from that.