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> they'll no longer be looked at as diversity hires Only racist losers assume I'm a diversity hire. And I'd actually rather they seethe at the "diversity hire"

> they'll no longer be looked at as diversity hires Only racist losers assume I'm a diversity hire. And I'd actually rather they seethe at the "diversity hire" who just happens to somehow magically drive high-impact projects at every company he's ever worked at culminating in a career that's seen him work on everything from some of the most used apps in the world to self-driving cars. For that particular brand of loser if it isn't affirmative action it'll be something else: - Our CTO is from a West African nation, I'm from a West African nation, we bonded over that so actually its neopotism - Affirmative action may be banned and we dropped D&I but actually the hiring manager has a personal secret agenda to hire blackies - One of the people that interviewed him was black so obviously they gave me a pass. But of course let's forget about the legacy admission that landed you in a school, let's forget how you bond with your interviewers over in-office beer kegs and inside jokes from your favorite shows in your shared culture, let's forget about that internship from a family friend, etc. etc.

ipaddr 4y ago
This isn't a movie I don't think anyone is seething or really cares. They may look at you and wonder where you rank, so it forces you to prove yourself. But in this industry every interview wants you to prove yourself in pointless ways regardless if you have 20 year or 1.
- BoorishBears 4y ago
  > This isn't a movie I don't think anyone is seething or really cares. If you think people who assume minorities are diversity hires only exist in movies I'm not sure if you're naïve, clueless, or both. > They may look at you and wonder where you rank, so it forces you to prove yourself I mean you want to tell yourself no one cares, but you also want to say that removing AA forces me to prove myself? (actually that's just a really vaguely written sentence, removing AA? or being black? what is "it"?) Why do white people get so uncomfortable at the thought that other whites can be racist? I didn't say you think of me as a diversity hire, I didn't say any majority of white people think of me as one either, yet you immediately feel the need to start throwing yourself in front of the bullet with statements like "this isn't a movie". Is this some sort of cognitive dissonance from the people who have these thoughts deep down or something?
  - MrMan 4y ago
  - ipaddr 4y ago
    I hope you realize that black people are wondering the same thing about you and how unfair it is to black people. I doubt white people are surprised by other white people can be racist. It is part of mainstream media. What may surprise you is many black people can be racist against other black people too.
    - BoorishBears 4y ago
      > I hope you realize that black people are wondering the same thing about you and how unfair it is to black people. Interesting... when race hadn't been specified, people wondering that about me was something that only happened in movies. But the moment I specifically mention white people then "well black people are wondering it too!!!!!" - It's almost like you don't care either way as long as you're running interference for the people I'm describing... but why are you doing that? Again it's not all white people, not even most, assuming minority = diversity hire, and for that reason I initially didn't mention a specific race at all until the first reply I got was someone in full denial mode... The only people who should feel the need to defend against what I'm saying are people who hold these thoughts. But I'm sure you don't, right? > I doubt white people are surprised by other white people can be racist. Yet, again, you felt confident enough to open a comment with patronizing levels of denial at the idea that there are people who think most minorities can't hack it outside of being a token hire... despite page full of comments essentially saying that! > What may surprise you is many black people can be racist against other black people too. Please don't project personal naivety and ignorance onto me. YOU are the one who thinks that someone assuming a minority is a diversity hire only happens in movies, not I. The western world weaponized racism amongst blacks across the continent I'm from and we're still seeing the results today in places like Sudan. Maybe you should brush up on your social studies if you were not aware.
      - ipaddr 4y ago
        Who said you were black or that I was white? White, brown, yellow and others live in Sudan. Do you believe everyone who visits here is white? I would guess half of the people on here have various shades of color. Your views are white and black and that's not reality. The world is not a movie. Most people in the world are not even white or black. Why are you excluding them? Why do you think it is fair to let in less qualified black students over more qualified asian and Indian students?
PubliusMI 4y ago

ipaddr 4y ago

This isn't a movie I don't think anyone is seething or really cares. They may look at you and wonder where you rank, so it forces you to prove yourself. But in this industry every interview wants you to prove yourself in pointless ways regardless if you have 20 year or 1.

BoorishBears 4y ago
> This isn't a movie I don't think anyone is seething or really cares. If you think people who assume minorities are diversity hires only exist in movies I'm not sure if you're naïve, clueless, or both. > They may look at you and wonder where you rank, so it forces you to prove yourself I mean you want to tell yourself no one cares, but you also want to say that removing AA forces me to prove myself? (actually that's just a really vaguely written sentence, removing AA? or being black? what is "it"?) Why do white people get so uncomfortable at the thought that other whites can be racist? I didn't say you think of me as a diversity hire, I didn't say any majority of white people think of me as one either, yet you immediately feel the need to start throwing yourself in front of the bullet with statements like "this isn't a movie". Is this some sort of cognitive dissonance from the people who have these thoughts deep down or something?
- MrMan 4y ago
- ipaddr 4y ago
  I hope you realize that black people are wondering the same thing about you and how unfair it is to black people. I doubt white people are surprised by other white people can be racist. It is part of mainstream media. What may surprise you is many black people can be racist against other black people too.
  - BoorishBears 4y ago
    > I hope you realize that black people are wondering the same thing about you and how unfair it is to black people. Interesting... when race hadn't been specified, people wondering that about me was something that only happened in movies. But the moment I specifically mention white people then "well black people are wondering it too!!!!!" - It's almost like you don't care either way as long as you're running interference for the people I'm describing... but why are you doing that? Again it's not all white people, not even most, assuming minority = diversity hire, and for that reason I initially didn't mention a specific race at all until the first reply I got was someone in full denial mode... The only people who should feel the need to defend against what I'm saying are people who hold these thoughts. But I'm sure you don't, right? > I doubt white people are surprised by other white people can be racist. Yet, again, you felt confident enough to open a comment with patronizing levels of denial at the idea that there are people who think most minorities can't hack it outside of being a token hire... despite page full of comments essentially saying that! > What may surprise you is many black people can be racist against other black people too. Please don't project personal naivety and ignorance onto me. YOU are the one who thinks that someone assuming a minority is a diversity hire only happens in movies, not I. The western world weaponized racism amongst blacks across the continent I'm from and we're still seeing the results today in places like Sudan. Maybe you should brush up on your social studies if you were not aware.
    - ipaddr 4y ago
      Who said you were black or that I was white? White, brown, yellow and others live in Sudan. Do you believe everyone who visits here is white? I would guess half of the people on here have various shades of color. Your views are white and black and that's not reality. The world is not a movie. Most people in the world are not even white or black. Why are you excluding them? Why do you think it is fair to let in less qualified black students over more qualified asian and Indian students?

PubliusMI 4y ago