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This asteroid was detected by a telescope that > scans the sky during twilight hours when these asteroids can be detected within two 10-minute periods each day

This asteroid was detected by a telescope that > scans the sky during twilight hours when these asteroids can be detected within two 10-minute periods each day 20 minutes per day per telescope. Talk about an under investment in something that may save our lives. I hope that we can soon launch more space based telescopes capable of observing the inner orbits 24/7 using some kind of sun shade or occluding device. We need to dedicate a lot more time and resources to this.

pif 4y ago
There are so many things that may save our lives, in a huge number of theoretically possible scenarios, that we must choose our priorities.
- throwaway4aday 4y ago
  An asteroid impact isn't theoretical. It's a statistical certainty like Russian roulette, just because the gun hasn't gone off yet doesn't mean it's safe to put it to your head and pull the trigger.
pif 4y ago
How many people have ever been killed by an asteroid? And how many by earthquakes? Even considering just astrophysics, we have more pressing problems.
- JPKab 4y ago
  It only takes one asteroid to end all life on earth. It's not a possibility, it's an inevitability. It's happened before, it will happen again, unless the hairless, bipedal fire apes that have proliferated on the planet use their newfound technology to redirect the asteroid slightly while it's far enough away.
  - pif 4y ago
    The rock that hit our planet 65 million years ago had a diameter of around 10 km. What do you think we may do about that?
    - pjkundert 4y ago
      If it’s a few years out — it takes a relatively small amount of thrust to avoid collision.
    - Zandikar 4y ago
      The more heads up we have, the less we have to actually do to prevent it. The key factor in having enough of a heads up is actually looking for these things in the first place.
      - vlovich123 4y ago
        Have we made good progress in bringing down our estimates of the orbits for asteroids? In popular press they seem to have large error bars even only half a year out. What’s the confidence level that making a change two years out will have the intended impact instead of sending the asteroid closer to earth?
        throwaway4aday 4y ago
        Those error bars shrink based on the number of observations you're able to make of the asteroid. Once we get to the point of committing to a redirect mission we would have made sufficient observations to know exactly what the asteroid's trajectory is. After that it's just math.
  - spoils19 4y ago
    Have we even considered if there may be rare minerals on the asteroid that we would want to mine to pull our population out of poverty?
    - JPKab 4y ago
      I'm a huge fan of mining asteroids, provided that they aren't hurtling towards our planet. The tech to redirect an asteroid is a small piece of the tech we'll need to mine asteroids. Looking forward to us getting there as a species.
- SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
  > How many people have ever been killed by an asteroid? An asteroid caused the extinction of the dinosaurs, which led to the rise of the mammals, which led to us, so that's a negative number. But it should be an example to us, to not risk the same fate.
- vlovich123 4y ago
  You have to multiply by the severity of the issue. A low probability event that ends all life on Earth has a different risk profile than focusing on earthquakes which happen more frequently but are comparatively drastically less catastrophic. Also we could conceivably prevent an asteroid impact with sufficient warning and enough math / dry runs. Earthquakes don’t have good answers afaik.
- EdwardDiego 4y ago
  Our cities can be engineered to survive severe earthquakes, with tools we have right now. We can't engineer ourselves out of an asteroid impact. Yet.
- qazpot 4y ago
  The only problem with the analysis is a single Asteriod striking anywhere on earth can wipe out billions of people. A powerful earthquake even it hits a large city would wipe out only in millions at worst. They do not scale the same way.
plgonzalezrx8 4y ago
Not to throw buzzwords around. But I think this is something AI/ML is something that is adequately equipped to do. Detecting "Possible" anomalies in the solar system based on imagery.

pif 4y ago

There are so many things that may save our lives, in a huge number of theoretically possible scenarios, that we must choose our priorities.

throwaway4aday 4y ago
An asteroid impact isn't theoretical. It's a statistical certainty like Russian roulette, just because the gun hasn't gone off yet doesn't mean it's safe to put it to your head and pull the trigger.

pif 4y ago

How many people have ever been killed by an asteroid? And how many by earthquakes? Even considering just astrophysics, we have more pressing problems.

JPKab 4y ago
It only takes one asteroid to end all life on earth. It's not a possibility, it's an inevitability. It's happened before, it will happen again, unless the hairless, bipedal fire apes that have proliferated on the planet use their newfound technology to redirect the asteroid slightly while it's far enough away.
- pif 4y ago
  The rock that hit our planet 65 million years ago had a diameter of around 10 km. What do you think we may do about that?
  - pjkundert 4y ago
    If it’s a few years out — it takes a relatively small amount of thrust to avoid collision.
  - Zandikar 4y ago
    The more heads up we have, the less we have to actually do to prevent it. The key factor in having enough of a heads up is actually looking for these things in the first place.
    - vlovich123 4y ago
      Have we made good progress in bringing down our estimates of the orbits for asteroids? In popular press they seem to have large error bars even only half a year out. What’s the confidence level that making a change two years out will have the intended impact instead of sending the asteroid closer to earth?
      - throwaway4aday 4y ago
        Those error bars shrink based on the number of observations you're able to make of the asteroid. Once we get to the point of committing to a redirect mission we would have made sufficient observations to know exactly what the asteroid's trajectory is. After that it's just math.
- spoils19 4y ago
  Have we even considered if there may be rare minerals on the asteroid that we would want to mine to pull our population out of poverty?
  - JPKab 4y ago
    I'm a huge fan of mining asteroids, provided that they aren't hurtling towards our planet. The tech to redirect an asteroid is a small piece of the tech we'll need to mine asteroids. Looking forward to us getting there as a species.
SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
> How many people have ever been killed by an asteroid? An asteroid caused the extinction of the dinosaurs, which led to the rise of the mammals, which led to us, so that's a negative number. But it should be an example to us, to not risk the same fate.
vlovich123 4y ago
You have to multiply by the severity of the issue. A low probability event that ends all life on Earth has a different risk profile than focusing on earthquakes which happen more frequently but are comparatively drastically less catastrophic. Also we could conceivably prevent an asteroid impact with sufficient warning and enough math / dry runs. Earthquakes don’t have good answers afaik.
EdwardDiego 4y ago
Our cities can be engineered to survive severe earthquakes, with tools we have right now. We can't engineer ourselves out of an asteroid impact. Yet.
qazpot 4y ago
The only problem with the analysis is a single Asteriod striking anywhere on earth can wipe out billions of people. A powerful earthquake even it hits a large city would wipe out only in millions at worst. They do not scale the same way.

plgonzalezrx8 4y ago

Not to throw buzzwords around. But I think this is something AI/ML is something that is adequately equipped to do. Detecting "Possible" anomalies in the solar system based on imagery.