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I'm with Cricket Wireless (AT&T MVNO) for a few years now and every time I look at the pricing of major carriers I'm blown away by how intentionally confusing t

I'm with Cricket Wireless (AT&T MVNO) for a few years now and every time I look at the pricing of major carriers I'm blown away by how intentionally confusing they make it. So you want unlimited data with your plan right? Well unlimited regular data or "premium" data, are you going to be streaming 1080p, because that only works on "premium" data. Oh and when we said unlimited data, we didn't mean unlimited "premium" data, no you only get 10GB of that before you get another 30GB of regular data and then after that and after that....well consumers with "unlimited data" only really use 30GB max so really "unlimited" is just 30GB plus the 10GB of "premium data" and then you get dial up. Oh and you want hotspot too? Well for that we have several tiers of premium and non premium data types. Here are 10 more plans to choose from.... Meanwhile Crickets plan is: $50/mo for unlimited data period.

Terretta 4y ago
Now try to get AT&T to tell you the difference between the 2010 grandfathered iPad unlimited data plan sold direct from the iPad UI, currently hovering around $30/month ... and any of the above, or in particular the business iPad add-on claiming to offer unlimited iPad data for $20/month. // This was the plan that was only around for a few months at launch: https://www.macrumors.com/2010/06/02/atandt-replaces-ipad-unlimited-data-plan-with-2gb-capped-plan-for-new-customers/ https://www.macrumors.com/2010/06/02/atandt-replaces-ipad-un... // And then sort of reintroduced in 2017, pulled in 2020: https://www.rvmobileinternet.com/gear/att-dataconnect-tablet/ https://www.rvmobileinternet.com/gear/att-dataconnect-tablet...
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pxx 4y ago
What are you talking about? Cricket does the exact same thing. https://cricketwireless.com/cell-phone-plans https://cricketwireless.com/cell-phone-plans : "Unlimited": $55/mo. Video streaming restricted to 1.5 Mbps. No hotspot allowed at all. Add hotspot to your "Unlimited" account: $10/mo. 10 GB of hotspot data usage, after which it is slowed to 128kbps. "only available with Cricket Core and select grandfathered plans," of which I think "Unlimited" is one, but see how confusing this is? "Unlimited Cricket More": $60/mo. Includes 15GB hotspot. Unclear what happens if you go over it, but "5GB and 15GB add-ons can be purchased separately". Also you can apparently only share the data allowance among 6 devices you're tethering to. Does include HBO max though. Video streaming still limited to 1.5Mbps. "100 GB simply data": $90/mo. Not unlimited data, but they won't throttle you. Closest to your claim but note not unlimited. Also unclear if it comes with phone service or it's even allowed to be used on a phone. I can't see how your post could possibly be more wrong.
- _fat_santa 4y ago
  No there's a huge difference. I was talking about Verizon but AT&T is the same. Cricket has two unlimited plans, an unlimited and unlimited + hotspot. With AT&T you have 3 unlimited plans that give you unlimited "data" and then different amounts of "premium data" and differing amounts of hotspot data.
  - pxx 4y ago
    so much for "unlimited data period". And it's not like this is less confusing: Cricket's unlimited with hotspot plan has completely orthogonal features (cloud storage, HBO max, more high speed data) to what you get if you buy the unlimited plan, then add hotspot (more devices allowed, fallback to slow data when out of data allotment). There's at least three plans to choose from here. The only simplifying factor is that Cricket doesn't even offer you the option to have 1080p streaming with any of these plans! Your premium data allowance is zero GB. How is that any better??
  - latchkey 4y ago
    AT&T has a business only truly unlimited data plan for hotspots that I ended up getting by actually going into a store and signing up, they don't advertise it at all and at the time, it was the only truly unlimited data plan I could find. It was a lifesaver as someone who sits on Zoom calls for hours each day while in a campervan. That said, I upgraded to the NETGEAR Nighthawk M6 Pro 5G hotspot and it is a piece of shit that overheats and gets poor performance all the time.

Terretta 4y ago

Now try to get AT&T to tell you the difference between the 2010 grandfathered iPad unlimited data plan sold direct from the iPad UI, currently hovering around $30/month ... and any of the above, or in particular the business iPad add-on claiming to offer unlimited iPad data for $20/month. // This was the plan that was only around for a few months at launch: https://www.macrumors.com/2010/06/02/atandt-replaces-ipad-unlimited-data-plan-with-2gb-capped-plan-for-new-customers/ https://www.macrumors.com/2010/06/02/atandt-replaces-ipad-un... // And then sort of reintroduced in 2017, pulled in 2020: https://www.rvmobileinternet.com/gear/att-dataconnect-tablet/ https://www.rvmobileinternet.com/gear/att-dataconnect-tablet...

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pxx 4y ago

What are you talking about? Cricket does the exact same thing. https://cricketwireless.com/cell-phone-plans https://cricketwireless.com/cell-phone-plans : "Unlimited": $55/mo. Video streaming restricted to 1.5 Mbps. No hotspot allowed at all. Add hotspot to your "Unlimited" account: $10/mo. 10 GB of hotspot data usage, after which it is slowed to 128kbps. "only available with Cricket Core and select grandfathered plans," of which I think "Unlimited" is one, but see how confusing this is? "Unlimited Cricket More": $60/mo. Includes 15GB hotspot. Unclear what happens if you go over it, but "5GB and 15GB add-ons can be purchased separately". Also you can apparently only share the data allowance among 6 devices you're tethering to. Does include HBO max though. Video streaming still limited to 1.5Mbps. "100 GB simply data": $90/mo. Not unlimited data, but they won't throttle you. Closest to your claim but note not unlimited. Also unclear if it comes with phone service or it's even allowed to be used on a phone. I can't see how your post could possibly be more wrong.

_fat_santa 4y ago
No there's a huge difference. I was talking about Verizon but AT&T is the same. Cricket has two unlimited plans, an unlimited and unlimited + hotspot. With AT&T you have 3 unlimited plans that give you unlimited "data" and then different amounts of "premium data" and differing amounts of hotspot data.
- pxx 4y ago
  so much for "unlimited data period". And it's not like this is less confusing: Cricket's unlimited with hotspot plan has completely orthogonal features (cloud storage, HBO max, more high speed data) to what you get if you buy the unlimited plan, then add hotspot (more devices allowed, fallback to slow data when out of data allotment). There's at least three plans to choose from here. The only simplifying factor is that Cricket doesn't even offer you the option to have 1080p streaming with any of these plans! Your premium data allowance is zero GB. How is that any better??
- latchkey 4y ago
  AT&T has a business only truly unlimited data plan for hotspots that I ended up getting by actually going into a store and signing up, they don't advertise it at all and at the time, it was the only truly unlimited data plan I could find. It was a lifesaver as someone who sits on Zoom calls for hours each day while in a campervan. That said, I upgraded to the NETGEAR Nighthawk M6 Pro 5G hotspot and it is a piece of shit that overheats and gets poor performance all the time.