> the US needs to 4x current onshore output levels No it doesn’t. Firstly, it’s not just the US but Mexico and Canada also which is another roughly 170 million

> the US needs to 4x current onshore output levels No it doesn’t. Firstly, it’s not just the US but Mexico and Canada also which is another roughly 170 million people. Secondly, the North American system only needs to produce enough for itself and perhaps its allies. Supporting the whole globe in the way China does is not going to happen, i.e. in a (even by US standards) hyper-financed fashion while ignoring profit and basic sustainability.