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currently completing a CS degree here - rust has yet to make it into classrooms (at my school) while C++ is still introduced I think professors mostly teach wha

currently completing a CS degree here - rust has yet to make it into classrooms (at my school) while C++ is still introduced I think professors mostly teach what is "industry standard" whenever they can - interestingly OCaml gets coverage in some classes because apparently some banks use it. Whenever big silicon valley company X starts using rust in a product major schools will follow.

rapsey 4y ago
Rust is used at Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, DropBox, Meta, Cloudflare and a bunch of others.
- jgrahamc 4y ago
  Yes. But we also use Go, C++, Lua, ...
- chomp 4y ago
  What's used at a bunch of west coast companies doesn't make it ubiquitous.
- ilovecaching 4y ago
  Some of those companies have like 1 or 2 projects in Rust out of thousands. I mean most of them are running millions and millions of lines of Java and C++. Java and C++ aren't going away - ever.
yodsanklai 4y ago
> I think professors mostly teach what is "industry standard" whenever they can - interestingly OCaml gets coverage in some classes because apparently some banks use it. It's time consuming to start a class from scratch and professors prefer to reuse their material when they can, rather than learning/teaching something new. There may also be some inertia that makes it hard to change the core languages that are taught. As for OCaml, there's a lot of academic research around functional languages, and professors doing research in PL are happy to teach OCaml/Haskell.
- jll29 4y ago
  > some banks use it. Not so much banks, but investment shops like hedge funds use OCaml e.g. Jane Street Capital - https://www.janestreet.com/technology/ https://www.janestreet.com/technology/ Oxford Knight - https://oxfordknight.co.uk/jobs/ocaml-hedge-fund/ https://oxfordknight.co.uk/jobs/ocaml-hedge-fund/ whereas others don't (e.g. Goldman Sachs relies a lot on Slang, a homegrown thing).
  - karmakurtisaani 4y ago
    As a side note, it really makes you wonder who the hell thought a freaking bank should build their own programming language..
    - acc_297 4y ago
      read this amazing article on "bank python": https://calpaterson.com/bank-python.html https://calpaterson.com/bank-python.html
Georgelemental 4y ago
In my uni, Java, C Ruby, OCaml, and Rust are a requirement for all CS majors. But not C++
eBombzor 4y ago
A data structures and algorithms course in UC Davis was taught in Rust around 2017 when the borrow checker still sucked. It was kind of hilarious.

rapsey 4y ago

Rust is used at Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, DropBox, Meta, Cloudflare and a bunch of others.

jgrahamc 4y ago
Yes. But we also use Go, C++, Lua, ...
chomp 4y ago
What's used at a bunch of west coast companies doesn't make it ubiquitous.
ilovecaching 4y ago
Some of those companies have like 1 or 2 projects in Rust out of thousands. I mean most of them are running millions and millions of lines of Java and C++. Java and C++ aren't going away - ever.

yodsanklai 4y ago

> I think professors mostly teach what is "industry standard" whenever they can - interestingly OCaml gets coverage in some classes because apparently some banks use it. It's time consuming to start a class from scratch and professors prefer to reuse their material when they can, rather than learning/teaching something new. There may also be some inertia that makes it hard to change the core languages that are taught. As for OCaml, there's a lot of academic research around functional languages, and professors doing research in PL are happy to teach OCaml/Haskell.

jll29 4y ago
> some banks use it. Not so much banks, but investment shops like hedge funds use OCaml e.g. Jane Street Capital - https://www.janestreet.com/technology/ https://www.janestreet.com/technology/ Oxford Knight - https://oxfordknight.co.uk/jobs/ocaml-hedge-fund/ https://oxfordknight.co.uk/jobs/ocaml-hedge-fund/ whereas others don't (e.g. Goldman Sachs relies a lot on Slang, a homegrown thing).
- karmakurtisaani 4y ago
  As a side note, it really makes you wonder who the hell thought a freaking bank should build their own programming language..
  - acc_297 4y ago
    read this amazing article on "bank python": https://calpaterson.com/bank-python.html https://calpaterson.com/bank-python.html

Georgelemental 4y ago

In my uni, Java, C Ruby, OCaml, and Rust are a requirement for all CS majors. But not C++

eBombzor 4y ago

A data structures and algorithms course in UC Davis was taught in Rust around 2017 when the borrow checker still sucked. It was kind of hilarious.