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This was my first thought too. It's an amazing looking piece of kit. I will not be buying a Playstation, but I do wish the PC VR space had someone continuin

This was my first thought too. It's an amazing looking piece of kit. I will not be buying a Playstation, but I do wish the PC VR space had someone continuing to push forward. The Index is nice but they really missed a beat by going with LCD. I haven't used my CV1 recently but I'm under the impression I will need a meta login, which I'm not interested in doing.

rjh29 4y ago
The Oculus Quest 2 with Air Link kills most other headsets dead, being both cheap, high-resolution and wireless.
- nsxwolf 4y ago
  I find Air Link to be finicky enough that I hardly ever use it. Once it's actually working it's pretty great, but the dance I have to do to enable the feature on the headset, enable the feature in Oculus Home (the settings don't persist forever for some reason), then get Steam VR to be happy with it... it's a lot of clicks (both in the real world on mouse/keyboard, then in the headset with the controllers, and back out and in again when something isn't working), often requires rebooting the PC or Quest or both, and is just a UX disaster overall.
  - rjh29 4y ago
    That's fair, I have only used it briefly so far (only just bought a decent PC). That is a shame to hear!
    - nsxwolf 4y ago
      Now, I also bought a really long USB-C cable with a 90-degree angle connector to make it fit a bit nicer, and I can use Link instead of Air Link, cutting out a bunch of steps getting it going. That works pretty reliably, and has better video quality. Corded, obviously, but it's still better than the old Vive umbilical cord, and fine for sit-down games like Elite.
chaostheory 4y ago
Affordability is one of the major issues of the metaverse. Most people can’t afford a VR ready PC as is and you’re lamenting that the Index doesn’t use more expensive components. I feel that Valve made the right choice with cheaper components since their goal is increased adoption of XR.
- willis936 4y ago
  Yet the PSVR2 is superior to the Index and costs half as much. Something is driving that it'd be nice if that something was able to propagate to PC VR.
  - chaostheory 4y ago
    PSVR2 is better than the Index in several ways, but PSVR2 came out 4 years after the Index. PSVR2 is also part of a completely closed platform. PCVR is a much more open platform which tends to mean higher prices. Let's also not forget that the Index uses base stations for tracking, which is much more accurate (and also more expensive) than inside out tracking.
jesuscript 4y ago
https://rarest.org/tech/most-expensive-vr-headsets https://rarest.org/tech/most-expensive-vr-headsets From that list, the HP Reverb has been described as better than the Index and Quest 2 due to higher quality screen and FOV (priced well too). The Primax and Aero are considered to be even more high end. I am considering making the investment since VR and Space/Flight/Racing sims are an entirely unique experience with VR and all the joysticks/racing wheels.
- squeaky-clean 4y ago
  The controller quality and tracking on the HP is worse than Index or Quest 2 which is (rightfully) a big deal for some people. The HP is the perfect VR headset for simracing and flightsim though. Be careful with simracing though! I started with one of the $300 Logitech setups and am now a few thousand dollars deep into a direct-drive setup. ;)
  - jesuscript 4y ago
    Yes, same here. I have just started.
- telman17 4y ago
  Tried the Reverb and was plagued by basic USB issues that stemmed from having an Asus motherboard. Went through many guides and troubleshooting before saying screw it, and returned it for an Index instead. (I use VR in Elite Dangerous and Flight Simulator)
  - TheHappyOddish 4y ago
    Probably more for anyone elses info than yours now, but this issue was resolved some months back with the "v2" version of the Reverb G2. Unfortunately they don't label the box differently.
- mellosouls 4y ago
  HP Reverb has been described as better than the Index and Quest 2 Unlikely - unless strictly on hardware specs - the Quest 2 is almost universally regarded (Google will confirm) as the best current headset, simply on bang for buck.
rcarr 4y ago
Give it a couple of years and I think you’ll have Valve release a Steam Deck with official support for their headset for some kind of super portable VR set up. You can already do it with the current gen (even wirelessly) but it’s not quite ready for prime time. Have a look at this video to see it in action: https://youtu.be/5FWDSFVp3NM https://youtu.be/5FWDSFVp3NM

rjh29 4y ago

The Oculus Quest 2 with Air Link kills most other headsets dead, being both cheap, high-resolution and wireless.

nsxwolf 4y ago
I find Air Link to be finicky enough that I hardly ever use it. Once it's actually working it's pretty great, but the dance I have to do to enable the feature on the headset, enable the feature in Oculus Home (the settings don't persist forever for some reason), then get Steam VR to be happy with it... it's a lot of clicks (both in the real world on mouse/keyboard, then in the headset with the controllers, and back out and in again when something isn't working), often requires rebooting the PC or Quest or both, and is just a UX disaster overall.
- rjh29 4y ago
  That's fair, I have only used it briefly so far (only just bought a decent PC). That is a shame to hear!
  - nsxwolf 4y ago
    Now, I also bought a really long USB-C cable with a 90-degree angle connector to make it fit a bit nicer, and I can use Link instead of Air Link, cutting out a bunch of steps getting it going. That works pretty reliably, and has better video quality. Corded, obviously, but it's still better than the old Vive umbilical cord, and fine for sit-down games like Elite.

chaostheory 4y ago

Affordability is one of the major issues of the metaverse. Most people can’t afford a VR ready PC as is and you’re lamenting that the Index doesn’t use more expensive components. I feel that Valve made the right choice with cheaper components since their goal is increased adoption of XR.

willis936 4y ago
Yet the PSVR2 is superior to the Index and costs half as much. Something is driving that it'd be nice if that something was able to propagate to PC VR.
- chaostheory 4y ago
  PSVR2 is better than the Index in several ways, but PSVR2 came out 4 years after the Index. PSVR2 is also part of a completely closed platform. PCVR is a much more open platform which tends to mean higher prices. Let's also not forget that the Index uses base stations for tracking, which is much more accurate (and also more expensive) than inside out tracking.

jesuscript 4y ago

https://rarest.org/tech/most-expensive-vr-headsets https://rarest.org/tech/most-expensive-vr-headsets From that list, the HP Reverb has been described as better than the Index and Quest 2 due to higher quality screen and FOV (priced well too). The Primax and Aero are considered to be even more high end. I am considering making the investment since VR and Space/Flight/Racing sims are an entirely unique experience with VR and all the joysticks/racing wheels.

squeaky-clean 4y ago
The controller quality and tracking on the HP is worse than Index or Quest 2 which is (rightfully) a big deal for some people. The HP is the perfect VR headset for simracing and flightsim though. Be careful with simracing though! I started with one of the $300 Logitech setups and am now a few thousand dollars deep into a direct-drive setup. ;)
- jesuscript 4y ago
  Yes, same here. I have just started.
telman17 4y ago
Tried the Reverb and was plagued by basic USB issues that stemmed from having an Asus motherboard. Went through many guides and troubleshooting before saying screw it, and returned it for an Index instead. (I use VR in Elite Dangerous and Flight Simulator)
- TheHappyOddish 4y ago
  Probably more for anyone elses info than yours now, but this issue was resolved some months back with the "v2" version of the Reverb G2. Unfortunately they don't label the box differently.
mellosouls 4y ago
HP Reverb has been described as better than the Index and Quest 2 Unlikely - unless strictly on hardware specs - the Quest 2 is almost universally regarded (Google will confirm) as the best current headset, simply on bang for buck.

rcarr 4y ago

Give it a couple of years and I think you’ll have Valve release a Steam Deck with official support for their headset for some kind of super portable VR set up. You can already do it with the current gen (even wirelessly) but it’s not quite ready for prime time. Have a look at this video to see it in action: https://youtu.be/5FWDSFVp3NM https://youtu.be/5FWDSFVp3NM