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Same for both: brake. I don't want either hitting my windshield. The kickball may be bouncy, sure, but it may have gotten rocks stuck to it, which can create a

by kortex 4y ago

Same for both: brake. I don't want either hitting my windshield. The kickball may be bouncy, sure, but it may have gotten rocks stuck to it, which can create a point stress and scratch paint or chip the windshield. Humans can't intuit mass unless the object meets certain criteria, either. What if it's an opaque cardboard box in the road? Generally the strategy is the same: avoid it.

williamcotton 4y ago
In certain circumstances with a playground ball you would have to choose between extensive damage to the body of your car by swerving out of the way or to just take the risk of a chipped windshield from a playground ball that somehow has rocks stuck to the outside. And have you seen ever seen a rubber playground ball with rocks stuck to the outside? Do you really hesitate to barefoot kick an unexamined playground ball that is bouncing in your direction? I mean, I literally did this yesterday. I was out barefoot in the neighborhood with my 1 year old and the neighbor kids were kicking a ball around and it bounced in my direction and I kicked it back to them. "Treat every object as the same" is not at all intelligent behavior for a man or a machine!
- AstralStorm 4y ago
  In case of a car, the thrown object is the easy case. Now imagine you spot a person walking down the road on a pavement. Suddenly, the person turns towards the edge. What do you do? See, a human driver would look at the gait of the person from far away to evaluate for instance if they're sober, or if it's a child who might be expected to run in. Whether it is near a crossing or a potential crossing. Whether the person was walking or standing... Many other obvious and less obvious indicators. AI currently sees a moving blob of pixels in a shape of a person. No advanced inference. When interviewed in case of an accident, say because they got rear ended due to braking, a person can explain why they braked most of the time. AI now couldn't even say which features it weighted.
  - williamcotton 4y ago
    I agree! My pet theory is that we'll need supervised training of androids that go through the experience of having to learn how to move their human-like bodies through space in order to make human-like intelligent decisions about objects moving through spaces primarily designed for humans. My other historically motivated pet theory is that we're going to stumble across sentient machines and then enslave them. Put another way, I'm more worried about what humans do to artificial sentient life than what artificial sentient life does to humans.

by kortex 4y ago

williamcotton 4y ago

In certain circumstances with a playground ball you would have to choose between extensive damage to the body of your car by swerving out of the way or to just take the risk of a chipped windshield from a playground ball that somehow has rocks stuck to the outside. And have you seen ever seen a rubber playground ball with rocks stuck to the outside? Do you really hesitate to barefoot kick an unexamined playground ball that is bouncing in your direction? I mean, I literally did this yesterday. I was out barefoot in the neighborhood with my 1 year old and the neighbor kids were kicking a ball around and it bounced in my direction and I kicked it back to them. "Treat every object as the same" is not at all intelligent behavior for a man or a machine!

AstralStorm 4y ago
In case of a car, the thrown object is the easy case. Now imagine you spot a person walking down the road on a pavement. Suddenly, the person turns towards the edge. What do you do? See, a human driver would look at the gait of the person from far away to evaluate for instance if they're sober, or if it's a child who might be expected to run in. Whether it is near a crossing or a potential crossing. Whether the person was walking or standing... Many other obvious and less obvious indicators. AI currently sees a moving blob of pixels in a shape of a person. No advanced inference. When interviewed in case of an accident, say because they got rear ended due to braking, a person can explain why they braked most of the time. AI now couldn't even say which features it weighted.
- williamcotton 4y ago
  I agree! My pet theory is that we'll need supervised training of androids that go through the experience of having to learn how to move their human-like bodies through space in order to make human-like intelligent decisions about objects moving through spaces primarily designed for humans. My other historically motivated pet theory is that we're going to stumble across sentient machines and then enslave them. Put another way, I'm more worried about what humans do to artificial sentient life than what artificial sentient life does to humans.