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Different between Mastodon and the other platforms you linked is that Mastodon facilitates communication between the various instances (if they agree to that).

Different between Mastodon and the other platforms you linked is that Mastodon facilitates communication between the various instances (if they agree to that). So you can join instance X and still communicate with people on instance Y, and it's easy for the administrators to set that up. It's possible with IRC/Discord as well but it's hacky and requires "bridges" while that functionality is "native" in Mastodon.

ilyt 4y ago
Right but the users on discord can chat with eachother just fine, while in case of Mastodon if 2 server admins don't like eachother no dice ? Or I'm understanding how it works wrong ? It seems counter-intuitive to moderate based on "which server user is from" too.
- toofy 4y ago
  > It seems counter-intuitive to moderate based on “which server user is from” too it sounds like the exact answer to me. just like massive chunks of our infrastructure blacklists entire domains because their admins are overly friendly to ddos, spam, illegal porn, etc… mastodon simply makes it easy to do the same thing. this isn’t new, our entire internet runs on this principle. the difference between centralized social like twitter/facebook and this is, the choice is ours to make. if we don’t like how a server is run, move or spin up our own. we curate it, not advertisers, not executive boards, not faceless shareholders, etc… with decentralized, freedom of speech and more importantly, freedom of association is back in our hands again.
- Zak 4y ago
  It makes sense to moderate email based on what server it's from. Alice@spammer.com wants to sell me a mortgage and bob@spammer.com wants to sell me "natural male enhancement". I don't want to hear from anyone @spammer.com because that server permits or exists for the purpose of sending spam. There are Mastodon servers that exist for things that most people don't want to interact with, such as racist hate speech, as well as servers that are essentially unmoderated. It makes sense for a server with a mainstream audience to block those.
Krisando 4y ago
As someone with seven Mastodon accounts. I know from experience that it's so easy to choose the wrong node and find out it's not being federated with on other Mastodon nodes. Worst part is even when you run your own Mastodon node, there are some nodes that operate instead in a whitelist mode, so you still lose out.
- VectorLock 4y ago
  Federation really does seem more and more to be like a major shortcoming vs. its material benefits.

ilyt 4y ago

Right but the users on discord can chat with eachother just fine, while in case of Mastodon if 2 server admins don't like eachother no dice ? Or I'm understanding how it works wrong ? It seems counter-intuitive to moderate based on "which server user is from" too.

toofy 4y ago
> It seems counter-intuitive to moderate based on “which server user is from” too it sounds like the exact answer to me. just like massive chunks of our infrastructure blacklists entire domains because their admins are overly friendly to ddos, spam, illegal porn, etc… mastodon simply makes it easy to do the same thing. this isn’t new, our entire internet runs on this principle. the difference between centralized social like twitter/facebook and this is, the choice is ours to make. if we don’t like how a server is run, move or spin up our own. we curate it, not advertisers, not executive boards, not faceless shareholders, etc… with decentralized, freedom of speech and more importantly, freedom of association is back in our hands again.
Zak 4y ago
It makes sense to moderate email based on what server it's from. Alice@spammer.com wants to sell me a mortgage and bob@spammer.com wants to sell me "natural male enhancement". I don't want to hear from anyone @spammer.com because that server permits or exists for the purpose of sending spam. There are Mastodon servers that exist for things that most people don't want to interact with, such as racist hate speech, as well as servers that are essentially unmoderated. It makes sense for a server with a mainstream audience to block those.

Krisando 4y ago

As someone with seven Mastodon accounts. I know from experience that it's so easy to choose the wrong node and find out it's not being federated with on other Mastodon nodes. Worst part is even when you run your own Mastodon node, there are some nodes that operate instead in a whitelist mode, so you still lose out.

VectorLock 4y ago
Federation really does seem more and more to be like a major shortcoming vs. its material benefits.