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Rimworld isn't comparable to DF beyond some basic shared gameplay mechanics. It plays differently and much more casually, particularly because it doesn't have t

Rimworld isn't comparable to DF beyond some basic shared gameplay mechanics. It plays differently and much more casually, particularly because it doesn't have the pitfalls of trying to simulate so many things. You'll never have to spend half an hour generating a world, for example, and your control over the game is much more direct.

orf 4y ago
It’s undoubtedly the same kind of game. The difference is complexity: chequers vs chess. My argument is that Rimworld has shown that it’s not niche, it’s that DF was completely unapproachable (from the UI to installing it) which is self inflicted. The fact that they are making it more approachable and available in steam support this. Except they are now playing second fiddle to a large number of games in the same category. Lots of people here praise DF as some kind of wonder child: the developer doesn’t even use VCS! Amazing! Except it’s not. It’s a complete failure - we have an incredibly innovative game that the developer has completely and 100% failed to capitalise on its potential. And maybe that’s fine - maybe they don’t want to succeed. But that’s indistinguishable from not being able to. Whatever the reason, someone else has eaten their lunch - Rimworld is the 14th best selling game on Steam, with between 3 and 6 million copies sold. Call of duty sold 30 million copies for reference.
- musicale 4y ago
  I think there's room in the gaming world for both DF and Rimworld. I don't see it as a problem that DF hasn't sold millions of copies (or any copies?) or that it has taken as long as it has to produce a version with a better gui and fix various performance and menu diving issues. As I see it the Steam version offers a better UI and performance and fixes some issues, and (hopefully) provides some revenue to keep development going.

orf 4y ago

It’s undoubtedly the same kind of game. The difference is complexity: chequers vs chess. My argument is that Rimworld has shown that it’s not niche, it’s that DF was completely unapproachable (from the UI to installing it) which is self inflicted. The fact that they are making it more approachable and available in steam support this. Except they are now playing second fiddle to a large number of games in the same category. Lots of people here praise DF as some kind of wonder child: the developer doesn’t even use VCS! Amazing! Except it’s not. It’s a complete failure - we have an incredibly innovative game that the developer has completely and 100% failed to capitalise on its potential. And maybe that’s fine - maybe they don’t want to succeed. But that’s indistinguishable from not being able to. Whatever the reason, someone else has eaten their lunch - Rimworld is the 14th best selling game on Steam, with between 3 and 6 million copies sold. Call of duty sold 30 million copies for reference.

musicale 4y ago
I think there's room in the gaming world for both DF and Rimworld. I don't see it as a problem that DF hasn't sold millions of copies (or any copies?) or that it has taken as long as it has to produce a version with a better gui and fix various performance and menu diving issues. As I see it the Steam version offers a better UI and performance and fixes some issues, and (hopefully) provides some revenue to keep development going.