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Their revenue from 2009-2022 tells the story: https://companiesmarketcap.com/tomtom/revenue/ https://companiesmarketcap.com/tomtom/revenue/

smallerfish 4y ago
Interesting, but if ever there was a y-axis that needed to 0, that is one of them. 550M revenue is a lot more than zero.
- contravariant 4y ago
  Oh wow that's an unclear graph, putting the first tick-mark at 1B gives the impression that you're starting at 0, but there is in fact over 0.5B missing from the bottom of the plot. Good trick to remember I suppose.
  - dchuk 4y ago
    Any chart that isn't zeroed out is a bad chart
    - smallerfish 4y ago
      There's very rare cases where it's justified; e.g. if you want to show a drop in company profits from $60.0B to $57.0B, you might want to cut the y-axis so that you're showing more detail of the loss over time (maybe so that you can correlate to the CRO's lame new "motions" that they started in January). I do think it should always be called out visually when doing that though.
    - contravariant 4y ago
      It's kind of inevitable for log-plots. Or non-absolute quantities like temperature in Fahrenheit/Celsius. (You can use Kelvin instead, but good luck interpreting that plot)
- lotsofpulp 4y ago
  Trends in profit (and profit margin) are a better measure than revenue for most established business’s health than revenue. https://companiesmarketcap.com/tomtom/earnings/ https://companiesmarketcap.com/tomtom/earnings/
swarnie 4y ago
I'd love to see this overlaid with the price of an additional map or an update to your existing map. The last time i checked in about 2007 the price of a yearly UK update was eye watering. I just accepted that if i take the new by-pass Tom will scream thinking im in a lake.
F30 4y ago
They’re still one of the major suppliers of car manufacturers for navigation software embedded in infotainment systems.
- exikyut 4y ago
  And they've figured out that's dead-but-alive, aka a terminal investment.
Cthulhu_ 4y ago
I do recall they provided the maps when Apple Maps was launched, but I can imagine Apple took over and built their own after that.
- afknewsagency 4y ago
  Check the licenses in the about section on the maps app and see... and also, go use Streetside, Bing Maps' version of streetview, and see what cars gathered those images!

smallerfish 4y ago

Interesting, but if ever there was a y-axis that needed to 0, that is one of them. 550M revenue is a lot more than zero.

contravariant 4y ago
Oh wow that's an unclear graph, putting the first tick-mark at 1B gives the impression that you're starting at 0, but there is in fact over 0.5B missing from the bottom of the plot. Good trick to remember I suppose.
- dchuk 4y ago
  Any chart that isn't zeroed out is a bad chart
  - smallerfish 4y ago
    There's very rare cases where it's justified; e.g. if you want to show a drop in company profits from $60.0B to $57.0B, you might want to cut the y-axis so that you're showing more detail of the loss over time (maybe so that you can correlate to the CRO's lame new "motions" that they started in January). I do think it should always be called out visually when doing that though.
  - contravariant 4y ago
    It's kind of inevitable for log-plots. Or non-absolute quantities like temperature in Fahrenheit/Celsius. (You can use Kelvin instead, but good luck interpreting that plot)
lotsofpulp 4y ago
Trends in profit (and profit margin) are a better measure than revenue for most established business’s health than revenue. https://companiesmarketcap.com/tomtom/earnings/ https://companiesmarketcap.com/tomtom/earnings/

swarnie 4y ago

I'd love to see this overlaid with the price of an additional map or an update to your existing map. The last time i checked in about 2007 the price of a yearly UK update was eye watering. I just accepted that if i take the new by-pass Tom will scream thinking im in a lake.

F30 4y ago

They’re still one of the major suppliers of car manufacturers for navigation software embedded in infotainment systems.

exikyut 4y ago
And they've figured out that's dead-but-alive, aka a terminal investment.

Cthulhu_ 4y ago

I do recall they provided the maps when Apple Maps was launched, but I can imagine Apple took over and built their own after that.

afknewsagency 4y ago
Check the licenses in the about section on the maps app and see... and also, go use Streetside, Bing Maps' version of streetview, and see what cars gathered those images!