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Sounds reasonable. Any gotchas there? I already read that vanity TLDs are bad, obscure countries' TLDs are bad, and even .eu may be unstable. Which are good ser

Sounds reasonable. Any gotchas there? I already read that vanity TLDs are bad, obscure countries' TLDs are bad, and even .eu may be unstable. Which are good services that can sell me an .org or .de domain for a fair price?

severino 4y ago
> and even .eu may be unstable Do you mean you can lose your domain if your country leaves the EU, or are you talking about other issues?
- mr_mitm 4y ago
  Yes, that's what I had in mind, I may be wrong though. Did any Brits have issues with eu domains after Brexit?
  - c12 4y ago
    Yes, but that was due to Brexit. .eu domains may only be registered to a person or entity that exists within the EU. As soon as Brexit crystallised any British person or entity owning a .eu domain was unable to renew it unless they had an address they legally occupied within an EU country. I know a few companies who rented a small amount of office space in France so that they could retain their .eu domain.
    - severino 4y ago
      I guess you can get a .eu domain for ten years. So that could be an option to make sure you have enough time to shift to another domain should your country leave the EU too. Assuming, well, that the EU won't take it away from you before the expiry date just because you lost your EU residence.
akvadrako 4y ago
Obscure country TLDs are fine. I've been using https://doubly.so https://doubly.so for a decade and never had trouble with emails.
c12 4y ago
I have heard people say "vanity TLDs are bad" but never experienced it myself. I have email addresses at .co.uk, .digital and .social never had deliverability issues with sending or receiving. When I worked at a large (100m emails/wk) email service provider the key thing was sending IP reputation followed by things like DKIM and SPF DNS records on the sending domain. IP reputation would be an issue if you self hosted your email, but using a reputable provider such as tutanota and fastmail should pose no issue.
- infinita740 4y ago
  It's a single data point but a friend of mine had an outage with ".online" in switzerland. We resolved it by pointing clients to use google dns. Never had similar problems with .com
jrootabega 4y ago
Speaking from personal experience, if you have to spell your domain for people, you will regret it! Also - have separate email stacks for communications and operations. Like it or not, your email is a low-friction way to get access to many of your other accounts, and maybe even a good way to LOSE access to some of your accounts. Your operational email domain should never be published, only used to register accounts and maybe do alerting, etc. You would whitelist senders. You would never use it to say anything, or associate with anyone, that someone might one day find offensive or controversial.
formerly_proven 4y ago
inwx + mailbox.org
UweSchmidt 4y ago
I wouldn't go for the cheapest price, I'd go to some established place in your jurisdiction with a wider product range and size, that targets small businesses. You have a chance to get some useful hotline, and things can be 'integrated' and are more likely to work, i.e. host your website - book the domain example.com - book a managed nextcloud and have it be at cloud.example.com etc. Their email service is likely to have some credibility from the global anti-spam force. They probably have the budget for best practices and reasonable security. As you mention .de domains: The online legal text generators for Impressum/Datenschutzerklärung are likely to have the correct text fragments to use for larger vendors. Overall they just have to uphold some level of reputation I hope. Example: ionos.de

severino 4y ago

> and even .eu may be unstable Do you mean you can lose your domain if your country leaves the EU, or are you talking about other issues?

mr_mitm 4y ago
Yes, that's what I had in mind, I may be wrong though. Did any Brits have issues with eu domains after Brexit?
- c12 4y ago
  Yes, but that was due to Brexit. .eu domains may only be registered to a person or entity that exists within the EU. As soon as Brexit crystallised any British person or entity owning a .eu domain was unable to renew it unless they had an address they legally occupied within an EU country. I know a few companies who rented a small amount of office space in France so that they could retain their .eu domain.
  - severino 4y ago
    I guess you can get a .eu domain for ten years. So that could be an option to make sure you have enough time to shift to another domain should your country leave the EU too. Assuming, well, that the EU won't take it away from you before the expiry date just because you lost your EU residence.

akvadrako 4y ago

Obscure country TLDs are fine. I've been using https://doubly.so https://doubly.so for a decade and never had trouble with emails.

c12 4y ago

I have heard people say "vanity TLDs are bad" but never experienced it myself. I have email addresses at .co.uk, .digital and .social never had deliverability issues with sending or receiving. When I worked at a large (100m emails/wk) email service provider the key thing was sending IP reputation followed by things like DKIM and SPF DNS records on the sending domain. IP reputation would be an issue if you self hosted your email, but using a reputable provider such as tutanota and fastmail should pose no issue.

infinita740 4y ago
It's a single data point but a friend of mine had an outage with ".online" in switzerland. We resolved it by pointing clients to use google dns. Never had similar problems with .com

jrootabega 4y ago

Speaking from personal experience, if you have to spell your domain for people, you will regret it! Also - have separate email stacks for communications and operations. Like it or not, your email is a low-friction way to get access to many of your other accounts, and maybe even a good way to LOSE access to some of your accounts. Your operational email domain should never be published, only used to register accounts and maybe do alerting, etc. You would whitelist senders. You would never use it to say anything, or associate with anyone, that someone might one day find offensive or controversial.

formerly_proven 4y ago

inwx + mailbox.org

UweSchmidt 4y ago

I wouldn't go for the cheapest price, I'd go to some established place in your jurisdiction with a wider product range and size, that targets small businesses. You have a chance to get some useful hotline, and things can be 'integrated' and are more likely to work, i.e. host your website - book the domain example.com - book a managed nextcloud and have it be at cloud.example.com etc. Their email service is likely to have some credibility from the global anti-spam force. They probably have the budget for best practices and reasonable security. As you mention .de domains: The online legal text generators for Impressum/Datenschutzerklärung are likely to have the correct text fragments to use for larger vendors. Overall they just have to uphold some level of reputation I hope. Example: ionos.de