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Can you name a single marvel superhero who has been replaced by a superior version of themselves that is a suppressed minority? Or any Disney character?

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notacanofsoda 4y ago
I don't agree with the parent commenter, but wasn't Captain Marvel originally male? The female character of Captain Marvel in the movies was known as Ms. Marvel in the comics (until 2012): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_Danvers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_Danvers. Similar story with Spider-man: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Morales https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Morales. There hadn't been an African-american spider-man until 2011. I'm not a comic book nerd, so I'm probably entirely wrong about this.
- oneoff786 4y ago
  Seems like a stretch. There have been many characters using the name Captain Marvel, male and female. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Marvel_(Marvel_Comics) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Marvel_(Marvel_Comic... Miles morales is a different person. He is not Black Peter Parker. They coexist in context dead or alive or across universes or whatever. If you watch a marvel movie you’ll see it’s mostly character drama, not superhero theatrics. The superhero alias is not the character. The MCU captain America is currently the Falcon, a black guy, who is objectively much weaker (not a super soldier or powered in any way. He does have fancy flying tech but they’ve tried to convey that he’s clearly inferior). One of the more nuanced and better MCU entries directly addressing the inherent supremacist nature of superhero culture and the cultural implications of just switching the race of a cultural icon. Imo, those are actually important relevant themes to drudge through. They’re not forced woke ideas forced upon people. It’s very problematic if you can’t explore such ideas without criticism for trying to do so rather than critical responses to the ideas themselves.
savy91 4y ago
I think they are referring to the little marmaid
- oneoff786 4y ago
  Is she “superior” to white Ariel? I haven’t seen the film.

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notacanofsoda 4y ago

I don't agree with the parent commenter, but wasn't Captain Marvel originally male? The female character of Captain Marvel in the movies was known as Ms. Marvel in the comics (until 2012): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_Danvers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_Danvers. Similar story with Spider-man: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Morales https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Morales. There hadn't been an African-american spider-man until 2011. I'm not a comic book nerd, so I'm probably entirely wrong about this.

oneoff786 4y ago
Seems like a stretch. There have been many characters using the name Captain Marvel, male and female. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Marvel_(Marvel_Comics) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Marvel_(Marvel_Comic... Miles morales is a different person. He is not Black Peter Parker. They coexist in context dead or alive or across universes or whatever. If you watch a marvel movie you’ll see it’s mostly character drama, not superhero theatrics. The superhero alias is not the character. The MCU captain America is currently the Falcon, a black guy, who is objectively much weaker (not a super soldier or powered in any way. He does have fancy flying tech but they’ve tried to convey that he’s clearly inferior). One of the more nuanced and better MCU entries directly addressing the inherent supremacist nature of superhero culture and the cultural implications of just switching the race of a cultural icon. Imo, those are actually important relevant themes to drudge through. They’re not forced woke ideas forced upon people. It’s very problematic if you can’t explore such ideas without criticism for trying to do so rather than critical responses to the ideas themselves.

savy91 4y ago

I think they are referring to the little marmaid

oneoff786 4y ago
Is she “superior” to white Ariel? I haven’t seen the film.