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if you only proof the price was $20 is because "journalists" reported it as so then I question your ability to critical think and judge facts because "journalis

if you only proof the price was $20 is because "journalists" reported it as so then I question your ability to critical think and judge facts because "journalists" report false things every day all day there is little to no evidence it was ever really $20, and even less evidence that Elon's mind was changed by Stephen King of all people... Who care what Stephen King thinks? More likely it was always going to be $8

smcl 4y ago
This "5d chess" stuff is approaching the level of faith that qanon followers have - nothing is ever wrong, everything is always going according to The Plan, when it deviates it's because The Plan has changed and you weren't informed, Hillary was arrested and sent to gitmo but unfortunately she was cloned, etc, etc. Look, he's spitballing ideas and playing it a little fast and loose. It may pay off, it might not - it looks a little stupid to some of us on account of how much he's paid for the company, but it shouldn't really surprise anyone and he doesn't need anyone making excuses for him.
- phpisthebest 4y ago
  It is not 5d chess, nor it is making excuses for him. It is a matter of critical thinking and evidence based research I do not count reporting based on anonymous sources as evidence of anything, Elon never said, and no official at Twitter ever said the price as going to be $20, so I have no evidence to believe outside of Rumor from sources that have been showed to be negatively biased on the subject and widely inaccurate on the subject, so why should I trust their $20 figure? I trust traditional news sources less than I do the government today, for which I would trust a Cartel bass more than the government.
  - smcl 4y ago
    > Elon never said, and no official at Twitter ever said the price as going to be $20 Except that he did. In the tweet he made just before he said it would be $8. If you discard the tweets where he said it would be $20 and then $8 - then yes your statement holds. But we shouldn't, because those are the tweets where he said those things.
    - phpisthebest 4y ago
      I am sure you have an archived source for that statement then, because I never saw anything other than news reports claiming that was the price

smcl 4y ago

This "5d chess" stuff is approaching the level of faith that qanon followers have - nothing is ever wrong, everything is always going according to The Plan, when it deviates it's because The Plan has changed and you weren't informed, Hillary was arrested and sent to gitmo but unfortunately she was cloned, etc, etc. Look, he's spitballing ideas and playing it a little fast and loose. It may pay off, it might not - it looks a little stupid to some of us on account of how much he's paid for the company, but it shouldn't really surprise anyone and he doesn't need anyone making excuses for him.

phpisthebest 4y ago
It is not 5d chess, nor it is making excuses for him. It is a matter of critical thinking and evidence based research I do not count reporting based on anonymous sources as evidence of anything, Elon never said, and no official at Twitter ever said the price as going to be $20, so I have no evidence to believe outside of Rumor from sources that have been showed to be negatively biased on the subject and widely inaccurate on the subject, so why should I trust their $20 figure? I trust traditional news sources less than I do the government today, for which I would trust a Cartel bass more than the government.
- smcl 4y ago
  > Elon never said, and no official at Twitter ever said the price as going to be $20 Except that he did. In the tweet he made just before he said it would be $8. If you discard the tweets where he said it would be $20 and then $8 - then yes your statement holds. But we shouldn't, because those are the tweets where he said those things.
  - phpisthebest 4y ago
    I am sure you have an archived source for that statement then, because I never saw anything other than news reports claiming that was the price