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Just take a look at Mastodon's twitter replies, The most common issue is finding other on other instances. Something people have been taking about since 2017!!
by jacooper 4y ago
Just take a look at Mastodon's twitter replies, The most common issue is finding other on other instances.
Something people have been taking about since 2017!!!
https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/1589 https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/1589
And Gargon(Mastodons maintainer) just added relays support and called it a day.
While the main issue still isn't fixed, none of the official Mastodon servers use relays, so discoverability is still crap.
You can't browse other servers timelines
https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/1053 https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/1053
And can't even backfill toots from accounts(you can't view toots older than the server itself!!!!), This is absolutely ridiculous
https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/14017 https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/14017
These issues are unfortunately predictable, and it seems Gargon won't fix them any time soon.
Its kind of funny that in Mastodon(basically Activitypub at this point) a federated platform, starting your own server is almost impossible unless people actually know you outside the platform, your chances of growing inside the platform are basically zero.
You won't show up in other instances search unless someone from the other instance follows you.
Even if you reply to users from that instance and its users liked your toots, you still won't show up in the instances search, its amazing.
Heck, even Matrix, a chat protocol has better discoverability than Mastodon, user in rooms I'm in will show up immediately in my servers search.
Its not a federation problem, its a Mastodon problem.
- show up in search here is meant as in showing up by just typing your display name / username without the server address, because no one knows which server you are in.
- kornhole 4y agoBecause Mastodon values anonymity, no real verification is built into the protocol. One way to establish your real ID account is get your own domain yourname.something and give that to people. Point the domain to a page such as yourname.neocities.com or even to your Mastodon page. Discovery is difficult, but you might try https://fedi.directory/ https://fedi.directory/.
- jacooper 4y agoI host my own Matrix server, and as I said in the OC, matrix a chat protocol has better discoverability than Mastodon a social network
- kornhole 4y agoI too host a Matrix homeserver, but I chose not to use the central name server when I setup. So you cannot discover me on Matrix. I might later setup my own name server as others do. Mastodon does not have an official central name server, but people have setup unofficial ones that people can choose to list themselves in such as https://fedi.directory/ https://fedi.directory/ and twitodon.com.
- jacooper 4y agoI'm not using one either. But matrix shows users from rooms you have joined, automatically. Unlike mastodon which even if you reply or like a "toot" you stills don't show up in search or the federated timeline. Its kind of ridiculous honestly.
- kornhole 4y agoI recall seeing discovery features on the list of developments along with federated groups. A lot is under active development. https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues
- jacooper 4y agoThis issue is known since the start of Mastodon. I won't hold my breath, it really looks like not a priority for gargon.
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