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I still won’t fly a Boeing MAX. Literally refused to do a business meeting in person and just did it over Zoom because the only sensible flight was on a MAX.

BitwiseFool 4y ago
Even if multiple independent sources deem the MAX safe after modifications, I will won't want to fly on one. Part of me wants to punish Boeing, even if the impact is minuscule in the grand scheme of things.
- linuxftw 4y ago
  The software solution was to disable MCAS if sensors disagreed by more than X. The FAA didn't release any data on how many flights landed successfully with MCAS disabled, nor did they address the scenario really at all in their report. Instead of using actual numbers, the FAA used Boeing-speak along the lines of "MCAS only activates in very rare scenarios." Not quantified whatsoever, just vague turn of phrase. If MCAS only activates in very rare scenarios, then why have it at all? And if it's necessary in these scenarios, how safe is the aircraft if it's disabled?
technofiend 4y ago
The booking tool my company gives us to book flights shows equipment for each flight. I avoid the MAX as well, even if it's inconvenient. Not to the point of cancelling travel as you have, but only because I haven't yet had to as there are many options for my particular pair of airports. Reputational loss is something companies manage as a risk and in this case IMHO Boeing should take the loss on a redesign to regain reputation and trust in their product. Because if they don't people like you and me will continue to avoid some of their airframes.
- grepfru_it 4y ago
  the md-10 had cargo doors that did not close properly. People continued to fly them. If the max planes are regulated to budget airlines due to the new low cost, you think people will still boycott it. History says otherwise
inetknght 4y ago
Even if you could book a flight without use of a MAX... good luck staying off of a MAX if your booked flight has mechanical trouble and the airline moves you to a different flight.
landemva 4y ago
I have also avoided trips that would require MAX flights. When the MAX goes through a new type certification, then I will fly on it.

BitwiseFool 4y ago

Even if multiple independent sources deem the MAX safe after modifications, I will won't want to fly on one. Part of me wants to punish Boeing, even if the impact is minuscule in the grand scheme of things.

linuxftw 4y ago
The software solution was to disable MCAS if sensors disagreed by more than X. The FAA didn't release any data on how many flights landed successfully with MCAS disabled, nor did they address the scenario really at all in their report. Instead of using actual numbers, the FAA used Boeing-speak along the lines of "MCAS only activates in very rare scenarios." Not quantified whatsoever, just vague turn of phrase. If MCAS only activates in very rare scenarios, then why have it at all? And if it's necessary in these scenarios, how safe is the aircraft if it's disabled?

technofiend 4y ago

The booking tool my company gives us to book flights shows equipment for each flight. I avoid the MAX as well, even if it's inconvenient. Not to the point of cancelling travel as you have, but only because I haven't yet had to as there are many options for my particular pair of airports. Reputational loss is something companies manage as a risk and in this case IMHO Boeing should take the loss on a redesign to regain reputation and trust in their product. Because if they don't people like you and me will continue to avoid some of their airframes.

grepfru_it 4y ago
the md-10 had cargo doors that did not close properly. People continued to fly them. If the max planes are regulated to budget airlines due to the new low cost, you think people will still boycott it. History says otherwise

inetknght 4y ago

Even if you could book a flight without use of a MAX... good luck staying off of a MAX if your booked flight has mechanical trouble and the airline moves you to a different flight.

landemva 4y ago

I have also avoided trips that would require MAX flights. When the MAX goes through a new type certification, then I will fly on it.