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Very related ban of Huawei, ZTE tech: https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/13/17686310/huawei-zte-us-government-contractor-ban-trump https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/

Very related ban of Huawei, ZTE tech: https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/13/17686310/huawei-zte-us-government-contractor-ban-trump https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/13/17686310/huawei-zte-us-go... It was known that these companies actively work with the CCP against US interests, which is the same thing happening with TikTok now.

kibwen 4y ago
That's a bill that went through congress, and it only applies to the government's own use of those company's products (which I agree with on several fronts).
- nicolashahn 4y ago
  Carr is calling on congress to craft a bill, so that's in line with this. The situation is different there because the threat is different - the greatest threat from China is if they have a backdoor to US gov devices. The greatest threat with TikTok is (from the article): > Carr highlighted concerns about U.S. data flowing back to China and the risk of a state actor using TikTok to covertly influence political processes in the United States.
- TSiege 4y ago
  I don't think you realize the scope of this part from the article linked, "In the end, Congress decided on a measure that will essentially ban the US government or anyone that wants to work with the US government from using components from Huawei, ZTE, or a number of other Chinese communications companies." The "anyone that wants to work with the US government" is incredibly broad and effectively banned them from our telecom industry and many others. Here's another article > On Sunday, May 19, 2019, Google publicly declared that it would be complying with Trump’s Huawei ban. Interpreting the language of the order, Google determined that the proper course of action would be to cut Huawei off from Google’s suite of digital products. [...] Not long after Google made its announcement, other US-based companies followed suit. This included Qualcomm, Intel, Arm, Microsoft, and many more. https://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-google-android-ban-988382/ https://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-google-android-ban-9...
- Rebelgecko 4y ago
  Executive branch put Huawei on doc's entity list, which means US businesses can only interact with Huawei in limited situations with explicit licensing from the export control folks.

kibwen 4y ago

That's a bill that went through congress, and it only applies to the government's own use of those company's products (which I agree with on several fronts).

nicolashahn 4y ago
Carr is calling on congress to craft a bill, so that's in line with this. The situation is different there because the threat is different - the greatest threat from China is if they have a backdoor to US gov devices. The greatest threat with TikTok is (from the article): > Carr highlighted concerns about U.S. data flowing back to China and the risk of a state actor using TikTok to covertly influence political processes in the United States.
TSiege 4y ago
I don't think you realize the scope of this part from the article linked, "In the end, Congress decided on a measure that will essentially ban the US government or anyone that wants to work with the US government from using components from Huawei, ZTE, or a number of other Chinese communications companies." The "anyone that wants to work with the US government" is incredibly broad and effectively banned them from our telecom industry and many others. Here's another article > On Sunday, May 19, 2019, Google publicly declared that it would be complying with Trump’s Huawei ban. Interpreting the language of the order, Google determined that the proper course of action would be to cut Huawei off from Google’s suite of digital products. [...] Not long after Google made its announcement, other US-based companies followed suit. This included Qualcomm, Intel, Arm, Microsoft, and many more. https://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-google-android-ban-988382/ https://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-google-android-ban-9...
Rebelgecko 4y ago
Executive branch put Huawei on doc's entity list, which means US businesses can only interact with Huawei in limited situations with explicit licensing from the export control folks.